Alex Table Tennis - MyTableTennis.NET Homepage
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Debraj Video with Rhyzm
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login
tabletennis11.com

Debraj Video with Rhyzm

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
debraj View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member
Avatar

Joined: 06/04/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3369
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote debraj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Debraj Video with Rhyzm
    Posted: 01/24/2014 at 3:05am
Selected strokes / rallies

with James
Click for Video 1


with Serg
Click for Video 2

with Joe
Click for Video 3

Edited by debraj - 01/24/2014 at 6:32pm
729-F1||Rhyzm-P(FH)|| Rasant Grip orRhyzm-P max(BH)
vid1
Vid 2
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
benfb View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member


Joined: 10/10/2008
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 2709
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote benfb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/24/2014 at 4:04am
Are these from a tournament?
Back to Top
berkeleydoctor View Drop Down
Silver Member
Silver Member
Avatar

Joined: 01/06/2010
Location: California
Status: Offline
Points: 699
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote berkeleydoctor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/24/2014 at 10:02am
what's your rating? just curious
Back to Top
Rahul_TT View Drop Down
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: 11/06/2012
Status: Offline
Points: 281
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Rahul_TT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/24/2014 at 12:23pm
I like the slomo!
 


Edited by Rahul_TT - 01/24/2014 at 12:26pm
Back to Top
debraj View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member
Avatar

Joined: 06/04/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3369
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote debraj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/21/2014 at 5:03pm
,,

Edited by debraj - 04/21/2014 at 5:11pm
729-F1||Rhyzm-P(FH)|| Rasant Grip orRhyzm-P max(BH)
vid1
Vid 2
Back to Top
in2spin View Drop Down
Silver Member
Silver Member


Joined: 12/09/2008
Status: Offline
Points: 988
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote in2spin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/21/2014 at 9:33pm
just fyi

in the first video - james won the 2200 last year at nationals

:)
Back to Top
Vince64 View Drop Down
Gold Member
Gold Member


Joined: 07/13/2013
Location: Kent, WA
Status: Offline
Points: 1578
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Vince64 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/21/2014 at 10:56pm
Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

observe that serve 1m33s
It's underspin masked as top; many people will cover it up into the net; also it does not seem heavy underspin but it can be. I have a friend who does it well and it's a pain; he will generally use it at 9-9 in the 5th to create a surprise :(
I know your not talking about me if your talking about spin. LOL
Back to Top
Rich215 View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member
Avatar

Joined: 02/28/2008
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3488
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rich215 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/21/2014 at 11:15pm
debraJ.....what did you not like about the Rhyzm?   Not enough topsheet tack/grip?

 
Back to Top
debraj View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member
Avatar

Joined: 06/04/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3369
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote debraj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/23/2014 at 3:00pm
Here are the limitations of my game with rhyzm .... doesn't mean that i may not end up using rhyzm as my rubber... after all its all compromise.

- when pushed away from table against aggressive blocker, when the balls comes close to your body and you don't have room for big swing. it is difficult to generate power or spin. Ends up the blocker increasingly get control of the point

- serves don't have much teeth unlike chinese rubbers or tenergies or mx-p etc.

- short game is not as good as mx-p. but not bad

- spin on opening loops is less than of tenergy and mx-p.

- pushes require more attention.


the advantage is :

- extremely predictable and forgiving !! (imo main feature of this rubber, and its very important indeed.)

- in general good with most shots.
729-F1||Rhyzm-P(FH)|| Rasant Grip orRhyzm-P max(BH)
vid1
Vid 2
Back to Top
Rich215 View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member
Avatar

Joined: 02/28/2008
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3488
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rich215 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/23/2014 at 3:10pm
Interesting.....so would you say that regular Rhyzm is close to Rakza regular..but Rhyzm is slightly slower/less bouncy....and or more forgiving?  
Back to Top
debraj View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member
Avatar

Joined: 06/04/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3369
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote debraj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/23/2014 at 4:14pm
nope ...rhyzm is faster than rakza!

don't remember bounciness of rakza right now!

forgiving depends on stroke type.. but in general i think both rubbers are very forgiving.

729-F1||Rhyzm-P(FH)|| Rasant Grip orRhyzm-P max(BH)
vid1
Vid 2
Back to Top
Tommy16 View Drop Down
Silver Member
Silver Member


Joined: 01/13/2009
Location: Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 745
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tommy16 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/24/2014 at 11:03am
Hi you all!
I have used Rhyzm on my fh about two season now. All and all it is a good rubber in all aspects. I´m really picky with my equipment so now I´m really considering to change My much loved Rhyzm to something else.Why? Becouse the differences between sheets is huge. I usually buy 5 sheets at once. First 5 were all really good. From next patch 1 out of 5 was fast and just lively enough. 2 out of 5 were ok. And two extremely hard (meaning bad for me). So now I´m thinking to change my fh rubber to something is like Rhyzm, maybe just a tad softer. Any ideas guys?

Thanks,
Tommi
What is the point of playing safe shots when you can miss with style

My feedback: http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67171&KW=&PID=811763&title=tommy16-feedback#811763
Back to Top
debraj View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member
Avatar

Joined: 06/04/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3369
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote debraj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/24/2014 at 12:53pm
this shouold have been in my other rhyzm thread.

Tommy ...you may well be right. for the previous Rhyzm sheet was not as good as the one i'm playing with now. I thought may be its my mistake.... but your post gives me confidence.


Thats the good thing.. but the bad thing now is ...

Rhyzm is from same factory as other esn rubbers. And their quality control is not different with other rubbers.
Also how long the rubber lies with dealer as inventory is another differentiating factor between sheet to sheet.

729-F1||Rhyzm-P(FH)|| Rasant Grip orRhyzm-P max(BH)
vid1
Vid 2
Back to Top
stiltt View Drop Down
Assistant Admin
Assistant Admin
Avatar

Joined: 07/15/2007
Location: Location
Status: Offline
Points: 1010
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote stiltt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/24/2014 at 1:47pm
I'm not making that up: rhyzm is really good on any blade but it will shine even more on a blade with super hard outer plies. My new blade has a kiri core, mahogany medial and ipe outer (slightly hard - medium hard - hard) and it makes the rhyzm play like it never has before. It really is amazing. It's like a beast that has been domesticated and is more powerful and PREDICTABLE than ever.
One thought: with the advent of harder sponge, harder outer plies have been favored. That would explain, in addition of zjk, the success of koto outer and the viscaria.
Back to Top
debraj View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member
Avatar

Joined: 06/04/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3369
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote debraj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/24/2014 at 2:40pm
fatt...its is surprising how early in the forum members figured that hard sponge goes better with hard outer ply and soft rubber do good with soft outer plies...

i remember i figured it about 6 years back... other members who shared same experience i right now remmeber boz.

BUT it is also surprising how many members even today advise to pair hard rubbers with soft blades and viceversa.... just intuitively, without checking out themselves... or without having the skill to "check out and figure".
729-F1||Rhyzm-P(FH)|| Rasant Grip orRhyzm-P max(BH)
vid1
Vid 2
Back to Top
mhnh007 View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Avatar

Joined: 11/17/2009
Status: Offline
Points: 2800
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mhnh007 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/24/2014 at 3:04pm
Hmmm! you guys get me thinking about the blade and rubber hardness.  I always thought it's the players preferences on blade hardness, like I always like harder blade, regardless of what rubbers I play with.  However, I do not like soft rubber, and maybe that is the reason why (always play with hard blade)...  I will have to get me some soft blade to try with soft rubber and see for myself Smile.
Back to Top
slevin View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member


Joined: 03/15/2012
Location: USA
Status: Offline
Points: 3602
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote slevin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/28/2014 at 2:36pm
Originally posted by debraj debraj wrote:

fatt...its is surprising how early in the forum members figured that hard sponge goes better with hard outer ply and soft rubber do good with soft outer plies...

Here's what I think:
1. Hard sponge (MX-P / M1 types & not H3) can go on hard outers (Qabod, TB-ZLC, etc - generally, this implies a fast rebound blade) only if the player is technically prepared to handle a blade that shall offer low spin and high rebound speed at the table (player must have very quick footwork, good core muscles and must be able to generate good blade speed). Away from the table, it shall be awesome.
2. Soft sponge does not work on soft outers (here, soft also implies that it is dwelly because of the softness). Examples I tried: T05FX on a TB-ZLF or any soft rubber on the JRE. The throw shall be all over the place.
3. Hard on soft and soft on hard seems to solve both the problems above. For example, many use T05FX on the MJ (limba outer but still feels hard due to the ZLC fiber) or TB-ZLC. 

I can't use a sponge softer than that of T05 on FH on any blade.
Back to Top
assiduous View Drop Down
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
Avatar

Joined: 05/01/2011
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 2521
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote assiduous Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/28/2014 at 3:12pm
the good thing is once you get better you don't need anything soft any more, so this 'dilemma' is only to get you through your transitionary period. While I have seen blades that are too damm hard, I don't know a single rubber that is hard. Rubbers are regular and soft, not hard. 

But I have a nittaku Rutis Power for sale right now.. that blade is hard. I like hard and stiff, but that is like playing with cement. Its kind of cool in blocks and smacks, but looping offers no dwelltime. It makes TB ZLC look like a very moderate and acceptable blade.
puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out
Back to Top
debraj View Drop Down
Premier Member
Premier Member
Avatar

Joined: 06/04/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3369
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote debraj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/28/2014 at 5:44pm
Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

the good thing is once you get better you don't need anything soft any more, so this 'dilemma' is only to get you through your transitionary period. ....


you mean pro players who play with soft rubbers need more practice?
729-F1||Rhyzm-P(FH)|| Rasant Grip orRhyzm-P max(BH)
vid1
Vid 2
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.01
Copyright ©2001-2018 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 6.344 seconds.

Become a Fan on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Web Wiz News
Forum Home | Go to the Forums | Forum Help | Disclaimer

MyTableTennis.NET is the trading name of Alex Table Tennis Ltd.

Copyright ©2003-2024 Alex Table Tennis Ltd. All rights reserved.