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dotha 
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 Topic: HELP: characteristic of Butterfly Cresail balde ?Posted: 02/09/2014 at 3:17am |
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Dear all,
I want to buy a butterfly Cresail. Someone knows that on this blade there is a black metal tag or not. I saw on the internet, there is one model with black metal tag and one no tag. what is the difference ? The Cresail without logo is a real blade or 1 false ? Many thanks for your help Do |
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Timo1978
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Posted: 02/10/2014 at 3:08am |
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Hi,
Cresails were mostly made with old black metal tag at the end of the handle. The ones from the first series that are missing the Serial number on the head I think have no nailed black tag. I do not think that there are faked Cresails on the market since the Cresail is discontinued since a long time. The Cresail is similar to the Butterfly Mazunov OFF+, but has much more control and more feeling, but it is very stiff. The Cresail is still used by many professional players, it is a very good but also a very fast blade. There are even Cresail models without a lense, these were made for Romanias` national team. I also saw Cresails with silver tag and without lense, but this must have been a private order placed at Butterfly....Kreanga used a Cresail in the Past, Crisan i think still uses it.... Edited by Timo1978 - 02/10/2014 at 3:34am |
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dotha
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Posted: 02/10/2014 at 4:30am |
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Hi Timo1978,
Thank you for your help, attached a photo of the Cresail blade that I want to buy, it does not have black tag, but just three Japanese letters: http://s1121.photobucket.com/user/edwardnovac/media/069.jpg.html?sort=3&o=83 For you, it's a real model. Best regards Do |
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Timo1978
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Posted: 02/10/2014 at 4:50am |
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The Three letters in phonetic language mean: Ta-Ma-Su Looks like a first series Cresail to me.
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Magic_M
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Posted: 02/10/2014 at 5:48am |
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Is this blade really from the first series?
Edited by Magic_M - 02/10/2014 at 5:58am |
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Posted: 02/10/2014 at 5:54am |
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I have a little problem with these blades, because I can't believe, that they are all original. A bunch of Cresail were sold by the same person. I also bought two, when he started, to offer them. He told me, that someone from his club has a few of them, but within the last months he sold at least 30-40 of these blades here and on other places and all these blades were new and boxed !!!
I don't think, that this is "normal". Over many years, there were only a few Cresail-offers, and now someone finds so many blades? A former shop-owner would have offered also other blades and not only the Cresail. And no player in the hole world would own so much (NEW) Cresail. Don't understand me wrong. I don't want to say, that the person, who offers them here, is a cheater. Maybe he bought them for a high price himself, but are they really original and from the first series? Or do we talk about a new (2013) version of these blades? I think, you have to pay round about 200€ for a "new" Cresail, if you order one from Butterfly. And as I know, most of the blades were sold for a higher price here in the forum. So anyone can make his own thoughts about this little "wonder". If you are not a collector and if you want to buy it for playing, there will be no problem, because (no matter, if they are new or old) they have a good feeling, a bit too heavy, but good quality. It would be interesting, if someone owns an old and used Cresail from the beginning ob. So he could compare it with these new "old" Cresail. |
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Posted: 02/12/2014 at 3:09pm |
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Thank you Magic_M
I need advice from everyone. Please |
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Posted: 04/22/2014 at 3:59pm |
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Those are originals (first series). I had some pieces (by far not as much as MagicM mentioned) to sell from my collection, which were preserved over the years. I also have Adolescen first series and Viscaria second series as well as some Stiga Clipper blades from this time. I bought them from a guy who once had a tt-shop and kept them over the years. I kept most of the blades for my collection and did not make much of a profit with those I sold.
However, I have recognized that they are some more Cresail blades in circulation at the moment. Some of them have black tag. Some of them don't. Cresail is a fine blade actually. It play like the better Mazunov models. I really like playing with it. However, I sometimes switch to my old clipper wood as well as to a older Double Fish blade.
Edited by filipo123 - 04/22/2014 at 4:08pm |
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