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    Posted: 02/28/2014 at 3:27pm
He Zhiwen, 51+ years old and almost 52, is still playing.

Man, this guy can sure last.  (# 43 or #44, in the following link.)
German Open:  3-26-2014, Magdeburg, Germany.

Looking forward to see him play.




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That's very encouraging. I'm 23. He is 51. Does that mean I still have 28 years to become a pro? Wohoo!
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He Zhiwen is old all right, but he still can give young players fits.


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Trinko Keen is still playing??? 
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Originally posted by Easily Easily wrote:

That's very encouraging. I'm 23. He is 51. Does that mean I still have 28 years to become a pro? Wohoo!

are you a cpen hitter, my coach at 54 used to beat easily 2600 players
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Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by Easily Easily wrote:

That's very encouraging. I'm 23. He is 51. Does that mean I still have 28 years to become a pro? Wohoo!

are you a cpen hitter, my coach at 54 used to beat easily 2600 players

No i'm shakehand. But maybe I should learn cpen. JK, but it seems like you can become older and not lose to much skill, because penhold is more about dexterity and shakehand is more about agility and strength.
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The subject title has been modified to accommodate future posts.

Beside He Zhiwen, Wong CT, a player of recent interest, is also in it.
Chen Weixing and SEO Hyowon are in this as well.

China did not send any women player to this event.



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Don't know if they will run into one another.  If they do, these will be great matches.

Kishikawa Seiya vs Wong Chun Ting.
(In Kuwait open, Wong beat both Kishikawa and Kenta. Wong did poorly against other players, almost couldn't advance to the Main Draw in Qatar open - after he lucked out, he beat Kenta again.)

Shiono Masato vs He Zhiwen.
(A great defender against a defender killer.  It will be anybody's guess as to who will win.)



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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

China did not send any women player to this event.


There will be a bunch of Chinese women anyway. LOL
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Originally posted by Ray Ray wrote:

Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

China did not send any women player to this event.

There will be a bunch of Chinese women anyway. LOL
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Looks like that you are right.
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The oldest player of this event:
He Zhiwen (ESP) was born on 5/31/1962.
As an unseeded player, he will play in the Qualification Group
facing some much younger players.
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Dima (#3 seed) and Timo (#4 seed) will be in different HALF.
Good for these German players.


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Fan Zhendong just pulled out of German Open.

Wang Hao carries the burden to win.
 
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China did not send any female player to play in this event.


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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Fan Zhendong just pulled out of German Open.

Wang Hao carries the burden to win.
 
Burden. You can see LGL is purposefully holding off the strongest players from pro tour events to give Europeans and others a chance to win. I think he is seriously worried that if China separates too far it can have very negative implications for the sport. What if he just lets all dogs out every time. How is any non chinese ever gona get to even semi final. I don't think anybody is injured right now. I don't think they need special preparation for the team event. There is no reason other than LGL just doesn't want an all chinese SEMI in a german open.
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Men's Singles drawing is out.
Dima is in bottom half while Timo is in top half.

Suppose they all survive, Wang Hao will run into Timo first then Dima later.
Tough for Wang Hao.


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Wang Hao & Dima's most recent encounter on 6-18-2013,
Dima won.


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Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Fan Zhendong just pulled out of German Open.

Wang Hao carries the burden to win.
 
Burden. You can see LGL is purposefully holding off the strongest players from pro tour events to give Europeans and others a chance to win. I think he is seriously worried that if China separates too far it can have very negative implications for the sport. What if he just lets all dogs out every time. How is any non chinese ever gona get to even semi final. I don't think anybody is injured right now. I don't think they need special preparation for the team event. There is no reason other than LGL just doesn't want an all chinese SEMI in a german open.
 
That is probably the right reason CNT only sent Wang Hao. The odds that one of Germans is in the final is dramatically increased.

It feels bad that CNT is so superior to the rest of world that it has to reserve its best to consider others' feelings.  

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Originally posted by RPB23 RPB23 wrote:


It feels bad that CNT is so superior to the rest of world that it has to reserve its best to consider others' feelings.  

 
More like LGL doesn't care about the German Open, or pro tours in general.
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Originally posted by ZingyDNA ZingyDNA wrote:

Originally posted by RPB23 RPB23 wrote:


It feels bad that CNT is so superior to the rest of world that it has to reserve its best to consider others' feelings.  

 
More like LGL doesn't care about the German Open, or pro tours in general.
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True.
From the players that China sends, one can tell if China wants to win that event or not.

For the coming 2014 World Team Table Tennis Championship in Tokyo, it will be tough for any other country to win the gold - Men's team or Women's team.

China's teams
Men's:  Zhang Jike, Ma Long, Xu Xin, Fan Zhendong and Wang Hao.
Women's: Ding Ning, Li Xiaoxia, Liu Shiwen, Chen Meng and Zhu Yuling.
They are top 5 players in the ITTF world ranking (March, 2014).


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From the scheduled time, you just minus 5 hours to convert it to US Eastern time.

For example:  

Wally Green's match (table 1) is 13:00  --- that will be 8:00 AM US Eastern time. (Has video).

Neither He Zhiwen nor Wong C T's match (Qualification groups) are on table 1 or 2. No video for these two players.


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Wang Hao & Shiono Masato will meet in the 2nd Round (or Round 32).
These two players have never played against one another before.


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Wally Green (usatt 2321) just finished playing.
VOD should be available shortly.
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I think it was pointed out on tabletennista  that Wang Hao is the only guy in the CNT now who has not won the German Open and is on is way out.   That is probably why he is still going.
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It took He Zhiwen 7 games to beat Kovac Borna.
While it only took KARLSSON Mattias 4 games to beat the same guy, Kovac Borna.

As the top player in group 7, He Zhiwen may have a tough time to advance to the Main Draw.
His next opponent, KARLSSON Mattias is a whole lot stronger than Kovac Borna.


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wally green's video is now up on ittv

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Originally posted by in2spin in2spin wrote:

wally green's video is now up on ittv

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Wally Green doesn't have an ITTF ranking.
Strange, he has played many ITTF sanctioned events.
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given all the 'rules sticklers' here......

wally doesn't even attempt to remove his free hand out of the triangle

however, seems like neither the umpires or the opponent seemed overly concerned as the outcome was pretty inevitable

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Hi,

I just want to specify from the beginning that I am questioning the ability of Wally Green.  I am trying to understand how someone can represent US in an international tournament.   I thought only the National team members who went through the National Trial are qualified to represent US.  

Is it possible for anyone to represent US in any ITTF tournament ?  
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wally green has appeared on many, many ittf participant lists, however, he has been a no-show in many of them

i admire wally green for pursuing his dream (wouldn't we all like to be doing what he's doing?)

however, who is sponsoring him?

and, given that his level is basically a given, wouldn't return on investment for a sponsor be greater if that sponsor was sponsoring somebody like......kanak, jiaqi or similar?

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I understand that Wally probably has a more significant social reach (than say Kanak or Jiaqi), but I'm curious of actual data indicating the impact (growth in popularity of TT) his involvement with the PRO Tour has had. Perhaps there isn't really a typical investment/return relationship with his TT endeavours... perhaps someone with deep pockets is simply happy to pay for him "doing what he wants". Either way, good for Wally - getting to do what he wants. I wonder though, how other Tour players feel about him... is he seen as a cool cat that is a good marketing element for the sport, or as a pointless joke that is more of a nuisance than anything?
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Wong Chun Ting convincingly won his first match in the Qualification Group (25).

He Zhiwen won his first match all right, but not convincingly.  (Group 7).

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About Wally Green:  
Don't know if Wally paid the cost himself or someone else paid for it.
(Round trip travel cost, hotel, meals and entry fee.)
I suspect that he paid for it by himself.


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Originally posted by Pondus Pondus wrote:

I understand that Wally probably has a more significant social reach (than say Kanak or Jiaqi),...
 
How so?
 
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but I'm curious of actual data indicating the impact (growth in popularity of TT) his involvement with the PRO Tour has had. Perhaps there isn't really a typical investment/return relationship with his TT endeavours... perhaps someone with deep pockets is simply happy to pay for him "doing what he wants". Either way, good for Wally - getting to do what he wants. I wonder though, how other Tour players feel about him... is he seen as a cool cat that is a good marketing element for the sport, or as a pointless joke that is more of a nuisance than anything?
 
He pays his dues and is approved to play by the USATT - what more does anyone want?
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