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chronos 
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 Posted: 04/15/2014 at 12:33am |
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In terms of setup, clipper CR is interesting because you have to open that blade up quite a bit and hit on the flatter side. This is good for me I'm finding. Having to either close the paddle with 05-fx, or hit more compact was cramping me on the backhand. With clipper CR I can open up the paddle and hit flat on both sides.
My wish list: DHS should add 1 or 2 degrees hardness for black Cmon guys, no orange sponge on the forehand? Black topsheet looks a little milky on both sheets I tried, red topsheet got marked up easily Release h8 asap
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Imago
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Posted: 04/15/2014 at 12:41am |
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BTW, is black 3-50 lighter than the red one?
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jabemu
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Posted: 04/15/2014 at 5:44am |
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Hi Chronos, excellent review. Two questions: -Do you feel that the red one is harder than the black one?. -Which one is tackier?. Thanks
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rusttt
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Posted: 04/15/2014 at 7:37am |
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I played with black H3-50 on FH of my Vega Pro blade yesterday. I found it much easier to play with than the H2 it replaced. Immediate strengths were serves, pushes and opening loops. It has a higher throw and is a bit bouncier than H2. I made far fewer errors looping back spin which was a real problem for me with H2. I'm going to do a few more days on FH then try it on BH, but so far I like it.
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runeazn
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Posted: 04/15/2014 at 12:45pm |
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Any1 have any idea why the chinese tt shops arent stocking h3-50 yet?
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Red: xiom Japan Black: Nittaku DHS H3 |
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berkeleydoctor
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Posted: 04/16/2014 at 12:09am |
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updates:
did more multi-ball with H3-50 on both sides then played ~2hrs of games. H3-50 is really not viable as a backhand rubber. Unless you stay close to the table at all times. This is because when you get into a countering rally at mid-distance, you need to use so much power to generate enough speed/spin to make it a reasonable shot from the backhand at 5-7ft away from the table Forehand, it's great. Spinny and very controllable on flicks, short game is amazing, and serves are deadly.
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PingPongHolic10
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Posted: 04/16/2014 at 11:57am |
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I have been playing for a few sessions with Schen’s used H3-50 on my backhand with Infinity VPS even tho it was cut in forehand shape. Hardness is not as soft as advertised; I was expecting it to be TinArc’s range, but it's in the Hurricane series’ hardness. Maybe because it was tuned & the sponge got harder? Anyways, this rubber is quite bouncy but not like newer tensors. It’s very similar to Thor, but a bit slower. It’s great in opening game, and blocking is fairly easy once adjusted to the throw. Despite the bounciness, I really have to swing hard to get the ball over in 3-5ft back (mid distance?)…the upside to this is that it’s very spinny. It does required active strokes to get the best results on my RPB, and I assume it’s great at counter loops close to table on forehand. The sound is very enticing as mentioned by Schen, almost like Stiga Calibra…loud. I’ll probably eventually open up the new sheet and put it on my forehand to play with sometime down the line. I will say that this rubber is the cheapest out of the tacky & dynamic sponges family, e.g. Thor, Tau, Spinart, Grip-S… |
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jonyer1980
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Posted: 04/16/2014 at 5:49pm |
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Do you consider it slower than Grip-s? I was really happy with grip S europe and im planning to go back to chinese rubbers once again.
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Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
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AndySmith
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Posted: 04/16/2014 at 6:14pm |
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I'd say yes - slower. Grip-S was pre-tuned, IIRC? H3-50 is much steadier, slower overall. |
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This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated.
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jonyer1980
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Posted: 04/17/2014 at 8:35am |
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That's what i have expected. Maybe once heavily tuned it'll be fast
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Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
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Chopper88
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Posted: 04/18/2014 at 9:42pm |
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Just try my new H3-50 tonight with PB, my said 37 degree 2.10 mm , I tune it with 2 layer of WBG and 2 layer of Daichi , its not slow at all, great feel, super spiny on slow loop and if you drive the ball its fast with almost no bounce , it also has great control !!! Been looking for something like this ..
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channyboi
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Posted: 04/19/2014 at 4:58am |
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The whole H3 topsheet with a springer sponge is a gimmick to other countries in my opinion. It isn't a problem with the H3 Neo if many westerners complain it being too dead and slow while there are kids in China that can out power basement players here that use tenergy. Basement player sees Ma Long use H3 Neo, tries it, says it's crap, switches to tenergy so the rubber can do everything for them. DHS offers H3 with a springy sponge= profit. |
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Imago
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Posted: 04/19/2014 at 5:02am |
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If you have to spend $60 for Dianchi, there is hardly any profit from using H3-50.
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el gato
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Posted: 04/19/2014 at 11:58am |
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How we compare the Dhs H3-50 with huricane 3 neo provincial in term of speed and spin ?
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rusttt
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Posted: 04/19/2014 at 5:13pm |
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Hi El Gato, my $.02 is that h3-50 is better on lower speed play like serves, flicks and pushes where the softer sponge engages better. All the power shots are better with Neo in my opinion. I think they're both decent rubbers, it just depends what part of your game needs the most help. |
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el gato
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Posted: 04/19/2014 at 7:17pm |
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I like provincial but i am afraid that h3 -50 is significant slower in terms of speed.
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panany
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Posted: 04/19/2014 at 7:30pm |
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i will training with this rubber monday ...
i will say u my feeling... in france im not bad player i usually play with h3 néo 40 orange sponge with 5 layers booster... now i have glued h3 50 with only 4 layers booster because sponge already more soft then im afraid rubber will become more soft and slowly i will say u after monday :) |
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panany
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Posted: 04/21/2014 at 9:40am |
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i will continu play with this rubber
good rubber maybe for me i would try find h3 50 but hardness 38... but for top spin is very good :)
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chronos
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Posted: 04/21/2014 at 2:58pm |
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I've used H3 Neo for about 5 years and I love it. I don't think h3 #50 is a gimmick. Your post doesn't add anything to the discussion.
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el gato
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Posted: 04/21/2014 at 3:19pm |
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thanks papany.
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berkeleydoctor
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Posted: 04/21/2014 at 4:16pm |
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did anyone try that nittaku red sticker h3 that we were talking about earlier in this thread?
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panany
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Posted: 04/21/2014 at 4:31pm |
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and one thing very important ...
with h3 neo after use oil first time glued always i dont feel rubber so good must glued yes with booster ... but with this 1st time already good :) now i wait for see how much days rubber will be good ( i often broke h3 neo push on rubber )
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qualizon
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Posted: 04/21/2014 at 4:39pm |
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you guys are so lucky, my package is still stuck at USPS after 2 weeks+
I could have order from schen and still faster to wait for the lazy people from the postal office
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Rich215
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Posted: 04/21/2014 at 11:05pm |
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Man...that sucks....that shouldnt be. I wonder if its damaged, or they are holding back more than your package in a group of stuff? I ordered something from tt24 and it was shipped on 4-16 and it arrived in NY customs on 4-20 as you can see here. Does your tracking show it still at ISC in NY like mine? Im in MI.  |
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qualizon
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Posted: 04/22/2014 at 12:38am |
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 It is already passed the custom and sorting at NY, but now it's again stuck in the sort facility at the state of Illinois before it arrives to my local post office |
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Posted: 04/22/2014 at 1:18am |
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Seems that the outward USPS works much faster. A big parcel with two Prince Warrior rackets has been posted on Apr 9 in New Providence, NJ, and delivered to me on Apr 16 in Sofia, BG.
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qualizon
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Posted: 04/22/2014 at 11:21am |
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Imago: that's very quick, I think the inbound custom, sorting and local delivery within the US are horribly below standard
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Rich215
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Posted: 04/24/2014 at 7:28pm |
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qualizon...did you get your rubber yet? My package is still sitting at ISC in NY still since Sunday....must be something going on . I have never had a package being held so long there after many orders from Europe and Asia. bummer
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qualizon
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yup, finally got it yesterday after two and a half week. But the tracking system didn't even get updated.
thumbs down to USPS. Edited by qualizon - 04/24/2014 at 7:35pm |
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Posted: 04/25/2014 at 1:39am |
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I'm playing with H3-50 same days and still don't sure about it. My level not high. In my opinion h3-50 more like tenegry with different top sheet and not like NEO H3. I like block, short game and first top spin with it, but i don't like it for FH. I can't do "chinese" top spin through the ball, maybe my technique not ideal but it really bouncy for me. With H3NEO I don't have the same problem. In pros - good control, good spin. I'm trying used it for bh but maybe it need one more tuning layer to be really good for bh. I put one layer falco long on it.
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