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liulin04
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Posted: 04/09/2014 at 5:54pm |
How would you receive a short and no-spin/tiny underspin serve if you were to use a one-sided Jpen? I popped so many of this serve out of bounce last night in two matches from my friend. I couldn't loop because the serves were short. When I push, the ball flies out. I'm thinking perhaps I should push the ball with my paddle facing downward towards the net, instead of directional chops where I would open the paddle up. Push blocking and flicks didn't work either.
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The drop shot in this clip may help
Essentially the stokes are not that different between the Jpen grip and the shakehand grip, I think.
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NextLevel
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Push on the side or chop the back of the ball.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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Drop it back short with a purpose (opposite end of the table the opponent is standing to make him move 1-2 steps and disrupt his balance). Recover to neutral position and prepare to attack next ball... as long as your drop shot was good quality, his attack will either be weak or come long enough so you can open/counter while he has to recover back to neutral. If he doesn't recover, you have the other side of the table open to attack and further unbalance him or win the point outright.
The traditional CPEN/JPEN sidespin block works too (the one Ma Lin and LGL uses). Edited by Rack - 04/09/2014 at 6:49pm |
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The good thing is that it is a friendly game so you will learn lots by experimenting
the main things 1. is to reconise the serve (so now you know that that serve has no spin and usually short) I'm not saying this for any silly answer, but just saying if you know the incoming serve then you can return it better 2. have a pre thoughtout response i.e tap it back short next time deeper back to his backhand side next time slide the ball back on a difficult angle and practice flipping for fun most answer are above anyway but just be positive |
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It seems like I asked this question on about forum and Larry suggested a control loop where you contact thinly toward the top of the ball and yank it forward.
But that's not specific to jpen. Edited by cole_ely - 04/09/2014 at 7:19pm |
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liulin04
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gently tab the ball short, what a great idea!!! I was pushing hard and long last night, no wonder all went out! |
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liulin04
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I wanted to do control loops to just passively bring the ball forward. But I was scared of damaging my $300 RSM G-Max in the process if I didn't do it right. This is the price to pay for playing with an expensive blade like this. No guts on going for risky shots... |
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Buy a cheap Jpen to practice technique with.
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i had the same problem too. i ended up flicking most of them. u should be able to flick short no spin/light spin. no spin service wants a lighter spin, even paced return. pushes, control loops, dropshots are ok depending on the opponent's expectation with pushes probably the worst unless you're really good with counters, but it's still better imo to break their 3rd ball atk setup first. i'd only switch off flick receive if they're habitually waiting in the back for a little variation. however, if you're better with pushes, you can also push high to compensate for the lack of incoming spin, making sure you add good spin to mimic a chop (like vs PO). then block, push, or counter the following return. |
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Thanks Kenney and Kuro for the tips.
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