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XIOM forehand rubber for looping |
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Stavros
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Posted: 04/13/2014 at 4:11am |
I'm looking for a XIOM f/h looping rubber which is NOT good for b/h things like drives ,etc.
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Blade: Stiga Infinity
FH: Dignics 80 BH: Dignics 05 |
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Imago
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Black Sigma I Pro max (red is different)
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Stavros
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A friend of mine told me the same thing!!!!!!!!
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Blade: Stiga Infinity
FH: Dignics 80 BH: Dignics 05 |
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Ray
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Well, Imago is your friend, too.
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vvk1
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Sigma I is way too fast for a looping rubber - it is actually a better rubber for a hitter. Sigma II series or Omega V are far better looping rubbers.
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DDreamer
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I like Omega IV Europe. Sigma II Europe aint bad either.
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I know that faster equipment will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out
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adishorul
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I think omega IV europe has little spin comparing to sigma
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DDreamer
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I find it pretty good to loop with.
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I know that faster equipment will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out
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Avallo
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without doubt... XIOM TAU
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GeneralSpecific
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Confirming. Sigma 2 is better than Sigma 1. |
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Blade - Xiom 36.5 ALX FL
Forehand - Xiom Omega V Asia 2.0mm Backhand - Victas Curl P5V with Der Materialspezialist Firestorm Soft/Outkill 1.8mm sponge |
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Chopper88
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Been using Sigma II for about a year good looping rubber , waiting on the Tau
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seguso
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vega japan. it is a forehand rubber. medium-hard sponge (45 deg) and medium-hard topsheet. (like t05 in hardness). medium-high throw. very grippy, spinny and fast. wonderful on forehand. (hard and not linear enough for my bh.). goes on stiff as well as flexible blades. hardness is between m1 and m2. better than jp01 for fh.
beware of sigma: it is very low throw. omega V could be a good choice too but I haven't tried it. Edited by seguso - 04/14/2014 at 10:58am |
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ckhirnigs113
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I highly recommend Vega Japan for the forehand. I use it on a Donic Defplay Senso blade. It loops really well, but it's also good at almost everything else. I just got a sheet of Omega V Tour on my spare Defplay, and I am in the midst of comparing it to Vega Japan (my sheet of VJ is over 6 months old though). So far I think Omega V is more linear and consistent, but I think I may prefer the slightly softer feel and catapult of Vega Japan. For the price, Vega Japan is hard to beat.
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Blade: Victas Koji Matsushita FL
FH: Xiom Vega Japan MAX BH: TSP P-1R 1.0mm USATT Rating: 1947 |
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Imago
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I use it for BH. With H2 Neo on FH.
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assiduous
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Vega Pro. Dirt cheap and good for everything. Very popular in my neck of the woods
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puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out
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suds79
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My buddy at club just picked this up and had a hit with it yesterday. I'm curious to get his impressions of it after he's had enough time on it.
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JacekGM
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No. VJ is heavy and bad for slow spinny looping. It is counterdriving rubber, and good at that.
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(1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH.
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tabletennis11
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Vega Pro seems to be the go to for most offensive players, it's probably the most well balanced variety of XIOM rubber and generates good spin and control with a good speed ratio :)
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sonykurniawan
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Vega pro is a good fh rubber and its blade dependant. However, its not very linear and not very forgiving. But with that price tag, its worth a try.
Edit: its a good bh rubber too. Maybe its not what OP wanted. Edited by sonykurniawan - 04/14/2014 at 11:04pm |
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seguso
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I just want to add that vega pro is slower than vega japan. in particular it lacks a top gear. (it is not slow at medium power). but the throw is higher.
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CraneStyle
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Humm... I thought that Vega Pro came alive with power loops...
Edited by CraneStyle - 04/15/2014 at 8:47am |
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1. Mizutani Jun ZLC, FH T80, BH T05
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NextLevel
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Seguso has some very strong opinions about what equipment suits what strokes. In a nutshell, I believe that equipment can enhance such strokes, but technique is the ring that rules all that any issues you have can be fixed with practice.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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DDreamer
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Our current club champion (approx US2450) used Vega Pro for a long time before he changed due to sponsorship. His loops were extremely spinny and powerful with Vega Pro.
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I know that faster equipment will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out
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N.Cali PLayer
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I use Vega Japan on the FH, and I have a pretty decent loop, and since using Vega Japan I have gone up in club play. I recently played with Tenergy 05 and my rating has started declining, so have gone back to Vega Japan.
I have to say, I don`t agree with JackGM at all of his perception to this rubber being unable to slow loop. I have read other posts by him stating that the ball slides off the rubber when slow looping. (correct me if I am wrong, but believe I have read that with regards to this rubber plus with the Xiom strad blade). I am wondering if you have problems reading spin? I have no problem slow looping. Like any rubber, if you think the ball has some topspin, but is actually a no spin ball, it will slide off because u have not reacted properly to the spin. For example, playing against short pip players you have to go into the ball more, if you don`t it your loop will not bite into the rubber. I do agree with your assessment that it is a heavy rubber, but I do not agree you cannot slow loop or that it slides off. I do both power and slow loops, and have no problems with it. In fact my game is more consistent since using it. |
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729 V-6 with FH Xiom Vega Japan / BH Xiom Vega Europe USATT currently 1405 (peaked at 1812 took 10 year break)
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DistantStar
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In my experience, these 2 rubbers are VERY similar. Sigma I pro is a great FH looping rubber. It's why I use it. I used sig 2 as well but found it similar so gone back to I for cost reasons. |
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JacekGM
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Okay, N.Cali..., good for you. You might be right that my slow loop is bad. I am glad that your technique matches the VJ really nicely. I gave the VJapan a good try, could not slow loop well with it (although the drives are awesome), moved back to the "kindergarten" looping rubber Vega Europe... and more recently I evolved via T80 (which is somewhat like the VJ in my hand) to Evo FX-P which is my current favorite (and great for my looping). The main point that you, and Next Level, made is very correct: all this is primarily about technique.
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(1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH.
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