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Originally posted by SmackDAT SmackDAT wrote:

What is everyone using on their Viscaria(s)? LOL


Tenergy 05 both sides!!!!!!!!!

It's like peanut butter and jelly.
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Baal is right, T05 in both sides!
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T80s on mine & so easy to play with...For me.
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What works for me the best out of tons of tested rubbers: Calibra Sound, T64, T80, T80FX, R7Soft.
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Rakza 7 FH and Rakza 7 Soft BH
Main Blade - BTY Viscaria - FH BtyT05 Max/BH Bty T80 Max
BBC Hinoki Ghost - FH/BH Bty T05FX


Blade - Donic Waldner Ultra Senso Carbon AN - Rakza 7 Max/Tenergy 05FX Max
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Tom Jarvis uses Viscaria (from Innerforce AL)

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECrGNlqlgfo


Edited by SmackDAT - 03/31/2016 at 6:15pm
Zhang Jike ALC AN (88g)
Tenergy 05 Hard (2.1, B)
Tenergy 19 (2.1, R)
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I'm in.

FL coming with MX-P and MX-S.
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I'm joining the club of awesomeness.

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I'm joining
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Butterfly Viscaria especially made of old veneers and new technology. 

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Johny Erasure what do you mean?
You mean you ordered old blade with new handle cups?
I am a little confused of what you write.
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Originally posted by *_strataras_* *_strataras_* wrote:

Johny Erasure what do you mean?
You mean you ordered old blade with new handle cups?
I am a little confused of what you write.

I mean it's made with old veneers and with new manufacturing technology from this days. It's not ordered by me.
I can't say more details, sorry.
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sorry, I can't understand Ouch
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tiehwen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/16/2016 at 4:07pm
Originally posted by *_strataras_* *_strataras_* wrote:

sorry, I can't understand Ouch
you don't have to. He was just quoting whatever others (unreliable sources) were or have been telling him. You won't miss a thing at all.
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Dont get me wrong it is a classic great blade but its funny to see a blade thats still in production go for such high prices just cause it has a black tag vs a silver one. It doesnt matter, heck this craze is mostly caused by Zhang Jike and he uses a newer siver tag Viscaria not a black tag ,short lens ,non serial number ,scaly koto blade. Or maybe he does and just changed handles and had the silver tag installed.......haha

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It is true that ZJK probably is the only reason that blade is still in production and we owe him a debt of gratitude just for that because it is a truly awesome blade.

As for the black tag craze, some but not all of them play really nice, especially the production runs from around 2007-8.  I have a few of those.  Great blades.  I'm not sure ZJK has anything to do with the black tag craze. 

I think some of the latest ones are also really nice, as best as I can tell from the ones I have hit with (total of 4, not my own), as good as any that have ever been made.  In my mind no doubt that they are better than the silver tagged ones of a year or two ago, which felt kind of hollow to me and were often far too light.  ZJK gets whatever kind of Viscaria he wants, I'm sure, at whatever weight, whatever handle dimension, balance, etc. etc..

What people are asking for some of the black tag ones, though, is like the stock market in July of 1929.  And depending on vintage, is no guarantee it will play in a particularly special way.
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I am a new member of Viscaria club. Have not tried the black tag viscaria, but I like the new design better. It is simple, concise, and elegent.
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Baal, what serial numbers are those made in 2007-08, starting with J and K?
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How do I become a member of The Official Viscaria Club?  Do I have to get one with a black tag, a silver tag, or no tag at all? 

How about if I just get a fake Viscaria which looks pretty much like the real thing except that the "Viscaria" lens is cloudy and there is only one "t" in the name Butterfly printed on one side of the racket?  Would I be a member in good standing even if my Viscaria is totally bogus but still plays okay? 

And finally, and most importantly, how does a Viscaria, black or silver tag, real or fake, play when you plaster some pre-1952 but in mint condition British Leyland onto it?

Thanks to all members of The Official Viscaria Club very much for any suggestions, observations, or comments. 


Edited by berndt_mann - 09/16/2016 at 9:58pm
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Berndt, you were blackballed from the Viscaria club by a secret vote of its members (who are part of the New World Order and the famous Jade Helm consipiracy).  The only way you can become a member is on the following conditions:  You must renounce all past comments and refuse to make any future comments on anything related to table tennis, it's players, championships, rules, strategies, serves, techniques, clothing, or equipment that occurred or were in use prior to, let's say, 2006.  For example, that would mean you would be able to comment about Liu Guoliang the coach, but not Liu Guoliang the player.  Bernie Bukiet, definitely off-limits.  Perhaps once per year, on grounds of good behavior, we would allow one and only one comment about, say, Dragutin Surbek, or even Errol Caetano.  But not Barna or Bergmann.  You must also renounce any past or future comments except those that pertain to spin oriented modern table tennis with inverted rubber on at least one side of the blade.   
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Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Baal, what serial numbers are those made in 2007-08, starting with J and K?


I think that's right or close to it.  Actually my absolute all time favorite one is an I series.
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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Baal, what serial numbers are those made in 2007-08, starting with J and K?


I think that's right or close to it.  Actually my absolute all time favorite one is an I series.
2007; 2008 - first letter H; I.
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Yes, of course, Johnny is correct.
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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Berndt, you were blackballed from the Viscaria club by a secret vote of its members (who are part of the New World Order and the famous Jade Helm consipiracy).

Actually, Baal, the Official Viscaria Club can trace its origins back to the Knights Templar of the late Middle Ages, who viewed Viscarias with the same reverence that several centuries later the Anabaptists, predestinarians and the Six Nations of the Iroquois did.  In addition Chin Shih Huang Di, whose lifelike terra cotta soldiers intombed with him are all shown holding rackets which, while ancient, bear a remarkable resemblance to a modern day Viscaria.

The Viscaria cult, or sect if you will, has been rumored to be integrated with both the New World Order and the Jade Helm people.  As this cult (sect) plays its cards very close to its vest, it is difficult to separate fact from fiction.

In the 1950s, the Viscaria cult was defended before Congress by such noteworthies as Sen Joseph R. McCarthy (R-Mich.), his lawyer Roy Cohn, the folk singers Pete Seeger and Woody Guthrie, the spies Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, later executed for a matter unrelated to Viscarias, and the producer Elia Kazan.  They wanted to corner the world's supply of arylate and carbon and produce boxcars full of Viscarias for the burgeoning competitive global table tennis population.

The only way you can become a member is on the following conditions:  You must renounce all past comments and refuse to make any future comments on anything related to table tennis, it's players, championships, rules, strategies, serves, techniques, clothing, or equipment that occurred or were in use prior to, let's say, 2006.  For example, that would mean you would be able to comment about Liu Guoliang the coach, but not Liu Guoliang the player.  Bernie Bukiet, definitely off-limits.  Perhaps once per year, on grounds of good behavior, we would allow one and only one comment about, say, Dragutin Surbek, or even Errol Caetano.  But not Barna or Bergmann.  You must also renounce any past or future comments except those that pertain to spin oriented modern table tennis with inverted rubber on at least one side of the blade.   

Boy, you guys are strict.  I gotta renounce everything I've said about TT and everything I will say about TT?  I'm beginning to wonder whether becoming a member of The Official Viscaria Club is worth it after all.  And not mentioning Barna or Bergmann is akin to not mentioning the Virgin Mary when singing Schubert's Ave Maria.



Edited by berndt_mann - 09/18/2016 at 12:15pm
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Yep. Those are the terms. Super secret societies have strict rules.
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Finally in my hand all the Viscaria Custom made, 2 Fl and 1 AN.
Left one is FL 95,6 gr, AN is 91,9 gr and FL 86.8 gr.

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