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Originally posted by GMan4911 GMan4911 wrote:

Originally posted by Pushblocker Pushblocker wrote:

btw, here is the last game of a match against a canadian player who was rated 2500 canadian at the time of the match and 2600 right now..

I was also 60 lbs heavier at that match.

 

Bryan Michaud was USATT 2163 at the time.
he had 1 bad us tournament and dropped. He was mid 2300s just one or 2 tournaments earlier.

btw, I also beat Matthew Theriault in 2011 3:0. He is 2800 canadian now and was 2849 canadian when I destroyed him 3:0

http://216.119.100.169/history/rating/History/Tresult.asp?Tid=3534&Pid=20412&Blow=1

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Originally posted by jrscatman jrscatman wrote:

Originally posted by DDreamer DDreamer wrote:

I'm a little confused. The guys in the clip are US2100 and are apparently 1100-1250 canadian. PB is US2155 and yet 1500-1650 canadian. I know Im not good at maths but...
I don't have any stats to back me up - but I would say a 2000 player in Canada & USA are about equal. 


haa..now that is funny.    those 3 players over 2000 US are 1400'ish canadian..

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Originally posted by Pushblocker Pushblocker wrote:

Originally posted by GMan4911 GMan4911 wrote:

Originally posted by Pushblocker Pushblocker wrote:

btw, here is the last game of a match against a canadian player who was rated 2500 canadian at the time of the match and 2600 right now..

I was also 60 lbs heavier at that match.

 

Bryan Michaud was USATT 2163 at the time.
he had 1 bad us tournament and dropped. He was mid 2300s just one or 2 tournaments earlier.

btw, I also beat Matthew Theriault in 2011 3:0. He is 2800 canadian now and was 2849 canadian when I destroyed him 3:0

http://216.119.100.169/history/rating/History/Tresult.asp?Tid=3534&Pid=20412&Blow=1


no doubt you catch a few people off guard with your cheating.  good for you..

and thats how you will be remembered.

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Originally posted by ByeByeAbout ByeByeAbout wrote:

Originally posted by jrscatman jrscatman wrote:

Originally posted by DDreamer DDreamer wrote:

I'm a little confused. The guys in the clip are US2100 and are apparently 1100-1250 canadian. PB is US2155 and yet 1500-1650 canadian. I know Im not good at maths but...
I don't have any stats to back me up - but I would say a 2000 player in Canada & USA are about equal. 


haa..now that is funny.    those 3 players over 2000 US are 1400'ish canadian..

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Do these people regularly play tournaments on both sides of the boarder. The fact there is discrepancy in the rating means nothing - other than all the US players are in a mad panic every time they have to play a Canadian.

I am talking about player skills - any player 2000 in Canada is on par with 2000 player in USA. Perhaps people on the board who play both sides of the border can confirm what I'm saying.

Pushblocker - has played high level Canadian players - he can compare them with other 2000 players in the USA. 


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Originally posted by jrscatman jrscatman wrote:

Originally posted by Pushblocker Pushblocker wrote:

Originally posted by DDreamer DDreamer wrote:

I'm a little confused. The guys in the clip are US2100 and are apparently 1100-1250 canadian. PB is US2155 and yet 1500-1650 canadian. I know Im not good at maths but...

also check the match above of me against #39 in canada at the time of the match (2500 canadian rating at the time) and I won. I have beaten several canadian players above canadian 2100 rating at the various team tournaments that I played.. Example.. Ben Bispham, Bryan Michaud. I did however lose to 2500 canada rated Teddy Wu in 5.
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I don't think you should count those guys - I don't think they have the experience to beat you. They were either juniors or just turned 18 - I don't think junior players have any chance against you. (maybe pips players). Not familiar with Teddy Wu.




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Do you have any recent videos of your TT? I saw the killershot - but that was only 1 shot - longer one would much appreciated. 
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Good luck in the match with Pushblocker!

I would also be keen to see a video of rick. I'm sure one could learn much from watching such a fine player.
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Originally posted by jrscatman jrscatman wrote:

Originally posted by ByeByeAbout ByeByeAbout wrote:

Originally posted by jrscatman jrscatman wrote:

Originally posted by DDreamer DDreamer wrote:

I'm a little confused. The guys in the clip are US2100 and are apparently 1100-1250 canadian. PB is US2155 and yet 1500-1650 canadian. I know Im not good at maths but...
I don't have any stats to back me up - but I would say a 2000 player in Canada & USA are about equal. 


haa..now that is funny.    those 3 players over 2000 US are 1400'ish canadian..

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Do these people regularly play tournaments on both sides of the boarder. The fact there is discrepancy in the rating means nothing - other than all the US players are in a mad panic every time they have to play a Canadian.

I am talking about player skills - any player 2000 in Canada is on par with 2000 player in USA. Perhaps people on the board who play both sides of the border can confirm what I'm saying.

Pushblocker - has played high level Canadian players - he can compare them with other 2000 players in the USA. 


jr

i dont know how many different ways to say it.....those guys in the video are 1400'ish canadian....it's irrelevant what they are in US terms (to me)....im just saying what they are when  they step north of the border.....   again...they are average recreational players any way you want to slice it....

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I guess pushblocker's idea about rating players with known rating still generates a debate.
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Originally posted by jrscatman jrscatman wrote:

I guess pushblocker's idea about rating players with known rating still generates a debate.


i wholeheartedly support anything that generates a debate.  Clap

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no doubt you catch a few people off guard with your cheating.  good for you..

and thats how you will be remembered.

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Wow, now you accuse me of cheating. How pathetic. You can't win the argument as I present facts and all you have is claims that can be proven COMPLETELY wrong if you look at canadians who have participated in US tournaments. It's nowhere close to the level that you claim. It's just a fact.
You think that if someone has a nice looking stroke, they are automatically good LOL
 
BTW, here is another one.. NA Team 2009, I beat Ben Bispham 11:6 11:6 11:6 and he was 2274 canadian rating at the time.. I can look up more as I've played many canadians over the years.. Another example is a player (Lukmon Oseni) who played in Canada for a while and then went to the US.. He was 2716 rated (canadian) and when he came to the US, he was only a low to mid 2200 player...
 
All that you post is "OPINION" and not backed up by any facts.
If you look at the facts, it shows that you are full of sh*t!


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Guys, hasn't Rick made enough disagreeable and unsubstantiated claims about his level and the levels of others for moderators to seriously visit the question of whether his presence on this forum is worth tolerating this behavior?
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He's a troll, what do you expect him to do?
The same thing I expect moderators to do!
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Hi Rick

I had play Johnny Huang before, one of the best player from your country, I'm about 2000ish and I can get more the 5 points, so should I be higher rated the those guys?
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Originally posted by Pushblocker Pushblocker wrote:

Originally posted by ByeByeAbout ByeByeAbout wrote:



no doubt you catch a few people off guard with your cheating.  good for you..

and thats how you will be remembered.

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Wow, now you accuse me of cheating. How pathetic. You can't win the argument as I present facts and all you have is claims that can be proven COMPLETELY wrong if you look at canadians who have participated in US tournaments. It's nowhere close to the level that you claim. It's just a fact.
You think that if someone has a nice looking stroke, they are automatically good LOL
 
BTW, here is another one.. NA Team 2009, I beat Ben Bispham 11:6 11:6 11:6 and he was 2274 canadian rating at the time.. I can look up more as I've played many canadians over the years.. Another example is a player (Lukmon Oseni) who played in Canada for a while and then went to the US.. He was 2716 rated (canadian) and when he came to the US, he was only a low to mid 2200 player...
 
All that you post is "OPINION" and not backed up by any facts.
If you look at the facts, it shows that you are full of sh*t!


hi pb

i think we will have to agree to disagree....yes, to me using lp is cheating...not officially of course...but cheating none-the-less.    keep posting your vids though....as at least i appreciate those.

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Originally posted by Chopper88 Chopper88 wrote:

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I had play Johnny Huang before, one of the best player from your country, I'm about 2000ish and I can get more the 5 points, so should I be higher rated the those guys?


hi chopper

getting 5 pts from jh is a huge success, imo.   i can't see the other guys doing that.  jh is a beast.  if i ever played him my goal would be to get exactly 5 pts...

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But I'm one of those guys in PB video
Sometime a video cannot tell how well or bad the player is
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Originally posted by Chopper88 Chopper88 wrote:

But I'm one of those guys in PB video
Sometime a video cannot tell how well or bad the player is


haha...nice...got me....well im guessing you're not the lp player cause jh would eat that alive....the big guy in the white had strong bh kills so thats where the pts probably came from...

unless im wrong...again

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I'm the LP player , it was the end of the night and getting past my bedtime ,
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Originally posted by Chopper88 Chopper88 wrote:

I'm the LP player , it was the end of the night and getting past my bedtime ,


i guess your username would be a clue...duh...since you're the only guy i saw chopping....the club you're playing at looks excellent.....love lots of room

what exactly are you playing with and for how long?

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Been chopping for a few years now , but used to be a attacking pip player , cannot move like I used too so I switch to chopping with was great but just figure out the past two years that I need to move more
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Originally posted by Chopper88 Chopper88 wrote:

But I'm one of those guys in PB video
Sometime a video cannot tell how well or bad the player is
Well if you're ever in Vancouver - look up Rick. But be careful according to Rick - apparently your skills will drop off to a recreational level when you cross the Canadian border!LOL
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Originally posted by Chopper88 Chopper88 wrote:

Been chopping for a few years now , but used to be a attacking pip player , cannot move like I used too so I switch to chopping with was great but just figure out the past two years that I need to move more
This club is good , only 3 days a week


thanks chop...what *exactly* is your set up...  lol....im talking about equipment....medics..medics..

seriously...i want to know what blade and rubbers you're using.

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Lol it's all good, it's hard to tell how a person play in videos , so no harm there, but I do have to say PB is a good at his style of play, not easy playing so close to the table with that fast reaction , it's hard to hit past him when his on
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Originally posted by jrscatman jrscatman wrote:

Originally posted by Chopper88 Chopper88 wrote:

But I'm one of those guys in PB video
Sometime a video cannot tell how well or bad the player is
Well if you're ever in Vancouver - look up Rick. But be careful according to Rick - apparently your skills will drop off to a recreational level when you cross the Canadian border!LOL


Nope, according to Rick, those of equal skill levels will have different ratings in the USA and Canada, which is true.
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Originally posted by jrscatman jrscatman wrote:

Originally posted by Chopper88 Chopper88 wrote:

But I'm one of those guys in PB video
Sometime a video cannot tell how well or bad the player is
Well if you're ever in Vancouver - look up Rick. But be careful according to Rick - apparently your skills will drop off to a recreational level when you cross the Canadian border!LOL



thats your spin on it jr....i never equated rec players with 'bad players'....technically we're all rec players... unless there is some pro that posts here that im unaware of..

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hi pb

i think we will have to agree to disagree....yes, to me using lp is cheating...not officially of course...but cheating none-the-less.    keep posting your vids though....as at least i appreciate those.

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How is long pips cheating?? If equipment would be cheating, then inverted would take the cake.. Try to create the amount of spin that inverted does with short pips ox.. LOL
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