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Baal 
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Many thanks to Theologian. Hopefully this is the end of this particular episode.
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chroot
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Posted: 08/08/2014 at 2:32am |
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I also got my refund back from Buys&sellsblades.
Thank everyone who helped resolve this issue. Edited by chroot - 08/08/2014 at 11:02am |
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angelleye
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Actually, I've seen people submit chargebacks over a year after their purchase and still get their money back. Unfortunately, it's common to see fraud with that sort of thing, too, but when used morally it's a handy thing to know about.
CC companies want to protect their consumers. When the chargeback is submitted you can specify that you never received the item, and unless the seller can provide tracking information that proves the item was delivered then you'll get your money back. Marking it as a gift on PayPal is just a PayPal thing. PayPal could potentially try to argue on behalf of the seller that the payer marked it as a gift, but just take a quick look at paypalsucks.com and you'll find plenty of stories about sellers who are pissed off because PayPal couldn't help them in such a scenario. |
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tuco
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Posted: 08/08/2014 at 12:39am |
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You can certainly try. Most credit card companies allow you to dispute your transactions up to 90 days (as opposed to 45 days by Paypal). the problem is when you sent money, you are admitting you are sending him money as a gift rather than goods purchased. If you have saved the PMs or emails you have communicated with him, that may help.
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bns7117
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Posted: 08/07/2014 at 11:47pm |
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I got my refund back from buy&sell as he promised, he followed through with his words. You did the right thing, buy&sell, i am glad that you chose the right path to follow.
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angelleye
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Posted: 08/06/2014 at 11:41pm |
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If the payment was funded using your credit card you can call your credit card company and file a dispute there instead of disputing through PayPal.
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chroot
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Posted: 08/06/2014 at 2:46pm |
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I am still waiting...
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Mdman
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Posted: 08/06/2014 at 2:28pm |
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He just refunded my money and emailed me saying that he will refund everyone's money. He is asking everyone to email him at [email protected]
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the_theologian
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Posted: 08/06/2014 at 1:52pm |
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My PayPal is linked to both my bank account and my credit card. Has been for years actually. |
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slevin
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Granted I don't know the nitty gritty details, but to me, that seems to be the scariest scenario of all...
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Antuan
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Posted: 08/06/2014 at 12:04pm |
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Ahhh my paypal is linked with my bank account..... |
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kakapo
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Posted: 08/06/2014 at 11:50am |
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My paypal is linked with my credit card, once the payment is marked as completed, the money is gone and you can't do anything about it if it has been sent as gift.
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Antuan
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Yes, but can't you deny the payment from your Bank? I have returned my paypal receipt. |
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BigBH
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Posted: 08/06/2014 at 7:13am |
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same thing to minimise your risk why not pay the $3.20
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kakapo
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Posted: 08/06/2014 at 6:23am |
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You are lucky, in Belgium that would have been impossible. If paid as gift and not received, then it is lost.
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tuco
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Posted: 08/06/2014 at 6:22am |
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Paypal fee is 2.9% plus $.30. That means for a $100 sale the fee is $3.20. What kind of seller would not absorb $3.20 on a $100 sale??? |
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vishal_dindoyal
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Posted: 08/06/2014 at 5:00am |
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Same here still waiting for refund.
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akoozab
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Posted: 08/06/2014 at 2:18am |
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thanks was thinking of buying something from him
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bns7117
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Posted: 08/05/2014 at 7:02pm |
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Nope, not going to happen, he is just buying time.
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Mdman
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Posted: 08/05/2014 at 5:07pm |
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I don't have my refund yet ! I really hope he l can get it today.
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Baal
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Posted: 08/05/2014 at 3:41pm |
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Perhaps those of you needing refunds could keep me updated here.
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Antuan
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I asked my bank to refund my paypal receipt, and i have got my money back. I see in my paypal account that this guy has not refunded it. Buy i finally got my money thanks to my bank. |
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chroot
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Posted: 08/05/2014 at 1:58pm |
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No, he hasn't refunded me yet.
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Antuan
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Hey friends, this guy is telling me that he has refunded the money everyone. Is that true?
And he says that i´m lucky because Paypal doesn´t warrant a refund of a gifted payment. I´m still waiting for my money. His obligation is to refund my money even if i paid like a gift. What´s the difference? Edited by Antuan - 08/05/2014 at 2:03pm |
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Baal
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Be aware that EJoslin is the same person as Buy&sellblades and SadistiClown, and this person's behavior is unfathomable and obsessive (since this person commented in this thread !!!). On websites like this, banned members can come back like zombies and this can be hard to police. Cameron, I really think you need help. I think you can enjoy table tennis without being on a table tennis forum. It would really be best for you.
I would strongly recommend that people not use the paypal gift option, and also I would suggest that it is not reasonable for sellers here to demand it. The vast majority of transactions here go off smoothly, and when they don't, members usually handle things themselves in a fair manner and it never comes to the attention of a moderator. Once in a while we have to intervene. Read the rules, and be careful! We have discussed having a rule against allowing sellers to demand the gift option of Paypal. For now we have decided to allow buyers and sellers to make whatever arrangements they wish. But I would personally never agree to it and I don't see why you should either. |
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Mdman
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You are doing the right thing to return my money, I hope you refund my money soon. Thank you |
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I think people need to look at the feedback section more before making a purchase. Anyone can be a scumbag and if they aren't known for being honest we shouldn't trust them.
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buy&sellblades
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Yes, i am working on getting everyone their money back. a little patience would be appreciated and i'm truly sorry to each of you that i've wronged. a couple of you will actually be getting your products though because they are things that i really did have. mdman, you're next to recieve your money back btw.
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Mdman
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I paid this guy $125 as gift payment 10 days ago for a blade and he's been telling me every day that he mailed it the same day but I know now that the blade will never come, I hope he is gonna return my money soon .
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Gift payment should be banned by pay pal. Never use this option otherwise you can't get your money back.
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