Stiga Airoc M Review (updated with review)

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jomtack wrote: Another question in stiga website they claim airoc m more speed, spin than calibra lt (airoc m speed148 spin 1 while calibra lt speed147 spin 125)do u agree? and pls compare airoc m and tg64 for speed spin?

Don't watch the catalogs, but believe the members here.
I have tested that rubber yet (Airoc M), but I lost all my intentions to loss time for reviews...
I posted long review about their former catalog with many non-logical things inside far of any professionalism.
How to expect a professional products from such kind of stuff?

I read Yogi posted very long review as he pointed very "diplomatic" the skills or lack of skills for this rubber.
Shortly said - it is heavy about 50 grams cut to normal BTY blade, it is with a very hard sponge, probably better than all Calibra rubber's topsheets. It is more spiny.
I felt it like a some chinese rubber, but If I need to make some general choice - 100% I will get DHS TG 3 that this Airoc M. More cheaper, more faster, more spiny, same weight.

And I think it is far of any Bluefire or other current ESN generation rubbers.
I haven't tested the S model, but surely I will miss.

Personally for me - If STIGA made a rubber with Calibra sponge and Airoc Topsheet...
That will be a good competitor's rubber on the market. But the sponge definitely must be little more stronger made. Current sponge of Calibra rubbers is very "fragile", easy to damage after removing it from the blade.
I don't arrange someone with my thoughts.

I can't recommend any of the Calibra LT rubbers - they are not like any of the Tenergy rubbers, nor Evolution series. Calibra are light, speedy, but has no enough spin in the top sheet.
Just look and try the paddle of some more experienced member in your club, I hope that will be more useful for you.

My opinion is like kolevtt - it is hard to really like spin and be stuck with Calibra when you compare it to Tenergy.  I think Evolution is closer to Tenergy than Calibra.

rocketscientist wrote: NextLevel wrote: My opinion is like kolevtt - it is hard to really like spin and be stuck with Calibra when you compare it to Tenergy.  I think Evolution is closer to Tenergy than Calibra. My opinion is the exact opposite. Airoc and Tenergy has about the same topsheet in quality. The sponge on tenergy is excellent but Airoc is not far behind. Evolution is terrible.

You'd have to be really pro-Stiga to think that. To the extent that you own their lawnmowers too.

Someone have experience with Airoc + booster? Both Boost and Calibra lines react well with boosters. I wonder how Airoc would react..

AMonteiro wrote: Someone have experience with Airoc + booster? Both Boost and Calibra lines react well with boosters. I wonder how Airoc would react..

The problem with Calibra series is that they are not very resistant. And it's even worse with boosting. Most pro or semi pro players tear the topsheet very quickly. 2 weeks for semi pros with one daily training and only a few days for pros who practice twice a day. Airoc seems to be more resistant, even when boosting but it's true that it can become a bit mushy.

NextLevel wrote: My opinion is like kolevtt - it is hard to really like spin and be stuck with Calibra when you compare it to Tenergy.  I think Evolution is closer to Tenergy than Calibra.

fatt wrote: On the fh in max i bet andysmith likes it big time.

I don't know mate. I liked Calibra, although it was mighty fast and wore out faster than a prostitute on £1 night. But I hated Calibra Tour with a passion which surprised me. Then I had a sheet of Boost with literally no topsheet grip - like anti.

I have arrived at the conclusion that Stiga rubbers just aren't for me. It would have taken a lot of positive reports on Airoc for me to give it a try, but there seems to be a very mixed reaction. So I'll probably pass personally. Will give it a try if anyone at my club turns up with it.

4 of my club mates have both on their blades, airoc m and s, except one guy who has 2 m's.I tried them and I really got dissapointed one more times from stiga's rubbers, cause after ALMOST 2 months, the rubber surface dramaticaly started to fade and they have not the same spin abilities.I thought that with these "made in Japan" rubbers, stiga would change its quality of rubbers, but still I am not pleased.

The newest member who plays with airoc in my club plays 9 years, so it is sure that they clean them up.I am there and I see them.The best and natural cleaning for the rubbers, as we all know, is the moisture of our breath and then clean it with our open hand (as we see the pros doing it during a match).We have stopped using cleaning methods from different companies (rubbers cleaners etc.) cause after 12 years of playing and changing hundrends of rubbers, i have noticed that the rubbers are fading faster with the cleaners than the breathing moisture.

So many conflicting observations. The best thing to do is to decide for yourselves.

I have used many brands of rubber cleaners over the decades and found only one that really does what it claims.

I won't tell you which one it is because someone will always disagree and tell me I am wrong. I won't tell you that it is Paddle Palace Rubber Cleaner and that it is a great product.

*_strataras_* wrote: The newest member who plays with airoc in my club plays 9 years, so it is sure that they clean them up.I am there and I see them.The best and natural cleaning for the rubbers, as we all know, is the moisture of our breath and then clean it with our open hand (as we see the pros doing it during a match).We have stopped using cleaning methods from different companies (rubbers cleaners etc.) cause after 12 years of playing and changing hundrends of rubbers, i have noticed that the rubbers are fading faster with the cleaners than the breathing moisture. Ofcourse Fehrplay, I have noticed significant change in the quality between the new airocs and the previous stiga rubbers...But I expected more duration in life.I thought that a "made in Japan" rubber would change the stiga rubbers and make them more durable.They are a lot more durable than the previous stiga rubbers for sure!If I had a calibra rubber, or magna etc, the rubber would need to be changed.But the airocs still have a lot of spin and speed.

Have you improved significantly as a player over the last few years?
Maybe it's simply that with greater experience, you have developed a greater sensitivity to performance changes in the rubber. For years, some players have told me that alll rubbers are basically useless after a month. I never believed them. But within the past couple of years, I do notice when a rubber's performance 'falls'. And yes, it's usually within 1-2 months after first gluing.

*_strataras_* wrote: I am ranked 400 in Greece, if that helps you.And a collector too.

You are a collector too! That confirms it then

*_strataras_* wrote: As I said I expected more cause it is "made in Japan", but still....A LOT BETTER than any other previous stiga rubber.

I don't know why you expected more really. Most Stiga rubbers are made in japan, and their durability has always been poor IMO.