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Johnny1996
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Posted: 09/27/2014 at 12:42pm |
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This SP is designed and advised by Olympic Champion Chen Longcan. Also, it is accepted by some professional team players. It is suitable for glue banned and new ball.
Edited by Johnny1996 - 10/01/2014 at 5:42am |
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nikk64
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Resemble Armstrong Attack 8EXX , what is the height of the pips ?
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Looks like 802-40
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nikk64
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Agree! Horizontal pimples
802-40 |
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ARMSTRONG Attack 8
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Johnny1996
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Longcan is a short pips. It is completely different from A8 and slightly different from 802-40.
A8 is a medium pips with 1.2 mm in height and a so called raw pips in china. 802-40 and Longcan are similiar that both are shorts pips ( so called cooked pips in china). But, the pips shape is different. Edited by Johnny1996 - 09/27/2014 at 8:32pm |
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Johnny1996
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To certain extend, they are different in term of characteristics. 802-40 is close to inverted rubber. |
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Skyline
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so this a grippy sp rubber with a tenergy like sponge? how does it compare with haifu dolphin?
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Johnny1996
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Long Can is just a non-glue sponge without tensor effect which is totally unlike Tenergy. the sponge is soft and easy to control. the speed is not high.
To compare Dolphin, Dolphin is turned version with great sound and tensor effect. if u use Long Can, suggest to use with booster.
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If that's the case, the Long Can sponge is very misleading in appearance. |
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Johnny1996
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they are completely different in price. Longcan is inexpensive. sponge in red does not mean that it equals to tenergy. tenergy is glued before in the market. Edited by Johnny1996 - 09/28/2014 at 12:20am |
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bbkon
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the shape of 802-40 is conical and this pips is like conical-cylinder, this pip will be more knuckle effect, any pic out there of dolphin?
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Johnny1996
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Longcan is a combination between Cynlinder and Ladder shape. 802-40 is ladder shape. the knuckle effect of Longcan is higher.
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bbkon
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have you tried longcan? or you think it would play that way based on the shape, OTOH longcan played with globe 889 in his prime, what pips are you tried lately? or think it worth playing
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Johnny1996
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yes, i played 2 versions of Longcan with different outcomes. Including market version of Longcan ( red sponge), i also use custom made Longcan with different color of sponges.
Edited by Johnny1996 - 09/30/2014 at 2:13am |
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bbkon
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whats the experience of playing with long can? where do you get that pips?
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Dr.Cho
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I would assume sponges are different hardness, what are they and what one do you use?
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Johnny1996
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now, i played 2 combinations.
1) Komann HC Max ( used by Jiang Jialiang, hard ALC blade) + market version of Longcan ( red sponge)
--> high speed
--> high knuckle effect
above characteristics may be caused by the hard ALC blade
2) Sword Blue Tan ( one of the series of Tan Ruiwu, hard 7 ply blade) + custom made version of Longcan ( green ESN sponge)
--> speed ok
--> low knuckle effect
--> high spin in loop
--> characteristics like inverted rubber
this combination is still under testing.
for market version of Longcan ( red sponge), it can be bought in Taobao ( honestly inexpensive)
for custom made version of Longcan, i specially requested Sword to produce including green ESN sponge, orange tensor sponge and purple tensor sponge. Edited by Johnny1996 - 09/30/2014 at 10:50pm |
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Johnny1996
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for hard to soft,
1) green ( ESN sponge)
2) orange ( tensor)
3) purple ( tensor)
now, i only play red sponge ( market version) and the green one. red sponge is satisfied. for green one, it is still under testing ( refer above post)
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Johnny1996
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the red one is market version.
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let me get this: sword can sell just one rubber or just one sponge(green) how can i contact sword?
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Johnny1996
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normally, sword sells SP rubber ( top sheet + sponge). red sponge is the standard combination of Longcan. there are more than 10 types of sponges. i guess u can buy sponge only.
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bbkon
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hi johny1996 whats is ALC blade?
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Johnny1996
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42andbackpains
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This short pips sounds interesting. Couple of questions and hope for some insightful answers. Thanks
I am using Stiga clippa 2.0 on my backhand a. Is the short pips itself soft compared to Stiga Clippa. I want to get a softer short pips for more control. b. Does the long can have better control or the same control as the Stiga Clippa c. How is the speed and spin compared to Stiga Clippa.
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