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DaNgo 
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 Topic: Different between red and black shortpips?Posted: 10/29/2014 at 10:58am |
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I watch many video of shortpips forehand player and see they ussually use red shortpips for forehand. Is it different between red and black??
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JohnnyChop
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Posted: 10/29/2014 at 4:53pm |
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Normally black is suppose to be softer... Lgl used black
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Posted: 10/29/2014 at 5:09pm |
============================================== Is that also true for the LP rubber - black is softer (that means red is harder). I use Palio ck531 and 388D-1 LP rubbers. (for about 2 years.) I really don't know if the black is softer or red is harder. I am just not that good in telling the difference.
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Matt Pimple
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Posted: 10/29/2014 at 5:43pm |
And why would that be? My theory at least for inverted (but it should also be true for pips) is that the black rubber is harder because carbon black (nanometer size carbon particles) is used as a black pigment which would increase hardness when compared to the red rubber lagging the black pigment. Essentially you are comparing a filled with an unfilled rubber and the filled rubber is always harder.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 at 6:37pm |
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The truth is I don't know why... I just have read that multiple time on various forums... People just said it's because of the dye Idye. t seems to be the general consensus...
Of course it's a generalization... But personally I find it true with dhs hurricanes and 729 802 |
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Posted: 10/29/2014 at 6:40pm |
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I think honestly most of the time it doesn't make a difference at all... But there has to be a reason that almost all Chinese players play with black fh and almost all the sp players of today uses red...
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Posted: 10/29/2014 at 7:03pm |
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Several of the points made above are correct but just for specification and clarity, the differences only exist in Chinese rubbers, not Eurojap rubbers. This applies to all Chinese rubbers, inverted and pips of all kind.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 at 7:16pm |
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European players are more likely to use the black side for FH especially if they are loopers. I have heard that the black dye makes the top sheet a tic softer than the red. American players favor the red for FH, don't know why.
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IanMcg
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Posted: 10/29/2014 at 8:07pm |
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Black is a smidgeon softer/more elastic than red
Strong forehand players will usually use black on their forehand.
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Posted: 10/29/2014 at 10:11pm |
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for FH, both red and black SP are used. zhan uses black haifu. Jiang used red 802-40 in legends tour. black is more than red. for BH, it is always in red especially of those low level vulcanization SP. it called raw pips in china.
Edited by Johnny1996 - 10/29/2014 at 10:12pm |
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