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recommendation from the shops there I guess.  He's tried a few other older pips like challenger, superspinpips, and a few chinese ones but clippa was his weapon bazooka of choice after experimenting

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Originally posted by schen schen wrote:

recommendation from the shops there I guess.  He's tried a few other older pips like challenger, superspinpips, and a few chinese ones but clippa was his weapon bazooka of choice after experimenting

do you know more short pips players(pro or any top level) beside shao yu and what are they using?
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The only two other high level SP players I know in person are

Tong Fei Ming (Taiwanese National Women's Team)
Blade:  Stiga Carbo 7.6 - Master FL
FH:  Hurricane 3 national (orange) 2.2mm
BH:  Haifu Dolphin 2.0mm

Lily Yip (LYTTC)
Blade:  Timo Boll ALC - cpen
FH:  BTY Challenger Attack 1.9mm
BH:  BTY Challenger Attack 1.9mm

I've also taken a look of Guang Qing Feng's (2700 short pip chopper) setup:
Blade:  BTY Joo Sae Hyuk - FL
FH:  Hurricane 3 NEO (commercial) (not sure what thickness)
BH:  Spectol Soft or Spectol 21 - 1.7~1.9mm (not spectol speed despite Westchester's commentary)

I should also add that Shao Yu uses a Stiga Clipper Oversize WRB blade, and H3NEO Provincial 39deg 2.1mm on his FH.
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Originally posted by schen schen wrote:


I've also taken a look of Guang Qing Feng's (2700 short pip chopper) setup:
Blade:  BTY Joo Sae Hyuk - FL
FH:  Hurricane 3 NEO (commercial) (not sure what thickness)
BH:  Spectol Soft or Spectol 21 - 1.7~1.9mm (not spectol speed despite Westchester's commentary)




Thanks for this, I knew something was off when they said Spectol speed. Nobody chops with Spectol speed.

However, I'm surprised about him using a commercial Neo. I figured any Chinese player 2500 and up who used Hurricane would use Provincial.
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I saw him glue and cut a sheet of commercial at westchester just before playing (it was already tuned).  I assume he might have run out of his provincial supply during his contract with Lily Yip's and just put whatever on his forehand (I've even seen him use Omega IV Pro before as a last resort).

I'm sure it doesn't matter too much to him when he plays most people in the US, the only two people he's lost to here were world top 100 Bojan Tokic (once) and NYISC's coach Liang Jishan (twice).
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What about coach li yuxiang?
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He uses a dhs pip last time i saw him, either dragonow or sharping - not sure on his blade.
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schen...i dropped by your club tonight and talked Shao Yu. He gave me his mobile so we could set up a first coaching lesson sometime after the Thanksgiving holiday.  I mentioned you recommended him and he pointed you out and you were playing. So I didn't want to bother you. Everybody there is friendly and coach Shao Yu was very nice. I will hopefully get better with some coaching. Thanks and talk to you soon...hopefully in person.Big smileBig smileBig smile
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Originally posted by 42andbackpains 42andbackpains wrote:

schen...i dropped by your club tonight and talked Shao Yu. He gave me his mobile so we could set up a first coaching lesson sometime after the Thanksgiving holiday.  I mentioned you recommended him and he pointed you out and you were playing. So I didn't want to bother you. Everybody there is friendly and coach Shao Yu was very nice. I will hopefully get better with some coaching. Thanks and talk to you soon...hopefully in person.Big smileBig smileBig smile

damn, missed you!

I'll be back after the NA teams, we should definitely play!  I am permanently moving back to California in January after nationals so hopefully we run into eachother before then!
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Ah... No wonder you are such a happy guy. You have all that Cali in you. Remind me never to play you again since in Cali, your pen hold style will only thrive and give me more nightmares. All the Cali penholders I have played over 2k, which you will be at some point, have annihilated me...
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schen...i am going to try to setup a session with Coach Yu the following Wednesday after Thanksgiving. If he isn't busy. Good luck to you and your clubmates at the tourney. May you reach 2000!!! Big smile
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Ah... No wonder you are such a happy guy. You have all that Cali in you. Remind me never to play you again since in Cali, your pen hold style will only thrive and give me more nightmares. All the Cali penholders I have played over 2k, which you will be at some point, have annihilated me...

Hahaha hopefully I will live up to your expectations Embarrassed

Originally posted by 42andbackpains 42andbackpains wrote:

schen...i am going to try to setup a session with Coach Yu the following Wednesday after Thanksgiving. If he isn't busy. Good luck to you and your clubmates at the tourney. May you reach 2000!!! Big smile

Thanks!  And I'll hopefully run into you the week after thanksgiving at the club!
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Hey guys...does anyone play with short pips on the BH and ZJ ALC? Is it too soft for pips? What is your suggestion?
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I dont have a Zhang Zhike ALC. As you know, short pips on the backhand players are very few. I would advise you to ask your friends and playing partners to test out there blades with a piece of short pips rubber you can glue on. This is if they are willing to. Some people treat there blades as gold and they can get a little crazy. Otherwise it will cost you a lot of money purchasing and trying out new blades. For me from experience...i like harder and stiffer blades and lose some control due to the fast nature of the blade, but this is my own preference. Some people prefer softer blades for better control. You have to know your game and tactics and what your prefer. This is my opinion only...so always please form you own opinion and hope your decisions work out. Best of luck!!! Smile
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Hey schen -

How did you know Guang Qing Feng wasn't using Spectol Speed?   Isn't the topsheet the same?

I'm a big fan of GQF and thought it would be odd for the commentator to mistake Spectol for Spectol Speed since Spectol is much more popular.  
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I asked Guang Qing Feng in person and confirmed with Lily Yip.  It is regular spectol, 1.7-1.9mm thickness.  The sponge is the difference, with spectol speed being harder and a minty-white color.  Guang Qing Fengs was very much yellow, and felt like regular spectol hardness, not 21 sponge.
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Originally posted by schen schen wrote:

I asked Guang Qing Feng in person and confirmed with Lily Yip.  It is regular spectol, 1.7-1.9mm thickness.  The sponge is the difference, with spectol speed being harder and a minty-white color.  Guang Qing Fengs was very much yellow, and felt like regular spectol hardness, not 21 sponge.


I can also confirm this as I also did the same thing a couple of months ago.
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Where does GQF coach now?  Still at Lily Yip?
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Schen can you ask lily what pips would recomend for cpen besides challenger?

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