Backspin Reverse Serve Like a Boss

Thanks - nice serve NextLevel.

Great video... love the way he presents it!

viva wrote: Thanks for the video I have been looking for the tutorial  for snake serve and its private now so this helps a fair bit. Can you ask them to make the snake serve video available again. Additionally, good luck on improving your backspin reverse serve !!

I will post the new link on the original thread in a few minutes. Thanks for the wishes. Serves are a lot of work so getting formal instruction is rare and helpful.

Edited by NextLevel - 11/10/2014 at 10:57am

NextLevel, I wouldn't mind seeing your snake/lizard serve on here too 

I love it all!

DistantStar wrote: My back spin reverse pendulum is EXACTLY like Nextlevel's haha ALRIGHT!!!! Getting lower, More bending arms and never straighten it! Ima try this after work!

Thanks for the compliment, show of solidarity... Whatever...

while playing fly disc with my son, I also realize how to control the paddle correctly to have a more consistent back hand loop. 

Where's part 2 I saw 1 and 3 !!

viva wrote: Where's part 2 I saw 1 and 3 !!

I just want to do everything in my life ---- like a boss!!!!!

slevin wrote: Brett - Congratulations on the great video series. I saw the 1st 3 of 9 videos on TTEdge and to me, your format is the best possible (seen be me so far among hundreds of coaching vidoes) design for explaining table tennis concepts. Your use of photos in the video along with the graphics to teach the serve is fantastic. For everyone else: this series is practically worth the TTedge fee in itself. It shall be very difficult for you not to learn this serve well after following the series. Brett: I hope the rest of your series shows us how to mix the reverse side-under with reverse side-top with similar style. Keep this up and we hope to see more videos on other TT topics using a similar expository format.

DistantStar wrote: NextLevel wrote: DistantStar wrote: My back spin reverse pendulum is EXACTLY like Nextlevel's haha ALRIGHT!!!! Getting lower, More bending arms and never straighten it! Ima try this after work! Thanks for the compliment, show of solidarity... Whatever... Dude, have you tried the advice? I couldn't do it. It feels like my torso just dont twist that way  As a result, my arm is over bending to compensate, so the serve just falls apart. It has so little spin it's embarrasing... Perhaps I need to lose some meat in that area...

I can't do it with my non playing hand, even though I have a reasonable understanding of the serve intellectually

This is actually really important.  There are at least two aspects of this, first understanding the motion and how it works, and then developing the very soft hands and feel needed to really make it effective (hence you can't do it with the off-hand). 

The way I see it (and Brett maybe you have some ideas on this too), there are macro-motions (such as keeping your elbows back, as noted in your video) and then there are the micro-motions from hands, fingers, (all controlled by vision and proprioception), that allow you to make these serves with confidence, to vary the spin on them at will, and make them go where you want to go.  (In other words, Like a Boss).  You have to acquire these things in order, but you need to also do some exercises to develop the micro-motions.  Just messing around with a ball, getting it to bounce on the table and come back to you bouncing at different angles is one way to help with the last part.  I used to spend a long time not actually serving but just hitting the ball onto the table, (it doesn't go over the net) and then watching it bounce back to me from various places.  I still do this to explore what happens when the ball hits different parts of my racket, what happenes when I changed the grip and finger placement (including thumb), all sorts of things.  There is an almost endless list of things you can explore this way.  But the idea of not hitting the ball over the net is that it forces you to focus on really fine motions, hit about any part of the ball you want to hit, and generate a really wide range of spins.  In time you learn how to put the stuff you learn from that to use on real serves.  Without that touch, you can't mess people up by subtly varying the amount of spin in sneaky ways.

bretts videos are good!

The trick with the broom handle was definitely demonstrated like a boss.  I think what I was going to was how to train the fingers too.