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Poll Question: What brand do you like the most?
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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

I'm going through a cheapo phase at the moment, so Yinhe gets my vote in "Other".

Honourable mentions to Donic and Tibhar though.


There is nothing wrong with cheap blades.  I am in the process of testing some of the cheap blades myself.  I bought some DHS PG-7 and some Nitakku blades around $40.  They are not bad.
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I was so sure that Stiga would have the highest vote.  I was wrong.  It seems like a lot of people like Xiom. 

So, for Xiom experts (EJs) => What Xiom blade that similar to TB ZLC?
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haha most of Xiom's composites are stiff and fast, I think you have no trouble finding something you like.

There's a Hayabusha series blade that's almost identical to the TBZLC, but I forgot which one exactly. Something with a Z.



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Originally posted by speedy speedy wrote:


So, for Xiom experts (EJs) => What Xiom blade that similar to TB ZLC?


ZXI, I believe they have same construction & a big sweet spot just like ZX (Jun Mitzo construction, plays like it as well).


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Penhold Blades: Yinhe/OSP/Nexy
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Originally posted by PingPongHolic10 PingPongHolic10 wrote:

Originally posted by speedy speedy wrote:


So, for Xiom experts (EJs) => What Xiom blade that similar to TB ZLC?


ZXI, I believe they have same construction & a big sweet spot just like ZX (Jun Mitzo construction, plays like it as well).

and what xiom blade plays like innerforce ZLC or amultart?
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Actually I´m posting here but I don´t hate Butterfly products.
I hate its MSRP.
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Originally posted by speedy speedy wrote:

I was so sure that Stiga would have the highest vote.  I was wrong.  It seems like a lot of people like Xiom. 

So, for Xiom experts (EJs) => What Xiom blade that similar to TB ZLC?


If Stiga had better finishing then they would win. I believe they are getting better but they have a ways to go before they can match Xiom, Donic or Nittaku.

My latest Stiga Clipper was very nice. I usually must sand every Stiga I have purchased in the past.
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Originally posted by TT newbie TT newbie wrote:

Actually I´m posting here but I don´t hate Butterfly products.
I hate its MSRP.


I probably say "hate butterfly policies and prices" Big smile
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XIOM is the best alternative for Butterfly, in term of composite materials
There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market.
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Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

XIOM is the best alternative for Butterfly, in term of composite materials

what xiom blade is closest to clipper or innerforce ZLC But a bit more solid?
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Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

XIOM is the best alternative for Butterfly, in term of composite materials

what xiom blade is closest to clipper or innerforce ZLC But a bit more solid?


For the IF ZLC, it would be the Hayabusa ZXi. :)
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Xiom Extreme-S is the closest to Clipper CR but a bit harder.
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Blades : Nittaku, Xiom
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No need to "hate" BTY for such choice. Nittaku and Xiom are really making better blades and Xiom better rubbers.
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My vote went to the Tibhar for both blades and rubbers - high quality yet affordable equipment. Their apparel is also very nice.

Apart from one Korbel FL Japan I sold right after I got (dislike the handle) I haven't had anything else from Butterfly.

My next purchases will be Victas blade(s).
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Butterfly is still the gold standard followed by Stiga
However the problem is that you also have to pay more for the quality.

I have always recommended players to boycott Butterfly for reasons I won't get into and would lead to my getting banned from the forum for the 1000th time LOL
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Originally posted by Tabmini Tabmini wrote:

Xiom Extreme-S is the closest to Clipper CR but a bit harder.


pitty there is no cpen version of extreme s
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Which brand do you think have the nicest cloths, I would say Nittaku or Stiga. 
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Blades: STIGA
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Overall: STIGA, by far the best table tennis brand in the world. So much class and seem to be down to earth. Important image.
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Originally posted by rocketscientist rocketscientist wrote:

Blades: STIGA
Rubbers: STIGA and Butterfly for my forehand
Clothes: STIGA
Marketing/website: STIGA by far
Sponsored players: STIGA have the best. Butterfly have a lot

Overall: STIGA, by far the best table tennis brand in the world. So much class and seem to be down to earth. Important image.


Stiga's blade quality has been down recently.  I'd rather get Nittaku or Andro.
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Originally posted by rocketscientist rocketscientist wrote:

Blades: STIGA
Rubbers: STIGA and Butterfly for my forehand
Clothes: STIGA
Marketing/website: STIGA by far
Sponsored players: STIGA have the best. Butterfly have a lot

Overall: STIGA, by far the best table tennis brand in the world. So much class and seem to be down to earth. Important image.
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Originally posted by rocketscientist rocketscientist wrote:

Blades: STIGA
Rubbers: STIGA and Butterfly for my forehand
Clothes: STIGA
Marketing/website: STIGA by far
Sponsored players: STIGA have the best. Butterfly have a lot

Overall: STIGA, by far the best table tennis brand in the world. So much class and seem to be down to earth. Important image.

Haha Stigas biggest fan! Smile Stiga surely have a good image and a really great looking website. I haven't been a very big fan of their rubbers before the Airoc serie witch i'm now in love with! I think Stiga shares the number one spot with Nittaku. 
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Originally posted by tiehwen tiehwen wrote:

Originally posted by rocketscientist rocketscientist wrote:

Blades: STIGA
Rubbers: STIGA and Butterfly for my forehand
Clothes: STIGA
Marketing/website: STIGA by far
Sponsored players: STIGA have the best. Butterfly have a lot

Overall: STIGA, by far the best table tennis brand in the world. So much class and seem to be down to earth. Important image.
Stiga....Really?
They don't even bother answer my emails or enquiries (x2)...

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Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by Tabmini Tabmini wrote:

Xiom Extreme-S is the closest to Clipper CR but a bit harder.



pitty there is no cpen version of extreme s


May be not in other countries but China has it.
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Originally posted by Tabmini Tabmini wrote:

Xiom Extreme-S is the closest to Clipper CR but a bit harder.


This is good information.  I like Clipper CR, but it's too soft for my backhand pips.
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I think Yinhe-Galaxy is the best alternative besides XIOM.
The XIOM Hayabusa ZXi even better quality than some SZLC blades
There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market.
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