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    Posted: 12/13/2014 at 10:52pm
Any Pro's out there using short and long pips ? or medium and long? On the same blade
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Originally posted by viva viva wrote:

Any Pro's out there using short and long pips ? or medium and long? On the same blade

Male or female?  They are probably all penholders, but yes, they exist.  Zhou Xintong is the first that comes to mind.
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Pros? That's a difficult question. Amelie Solja comes to mind: short/medium pips on fh and anti on bh.
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by viva viva wrote:

Any Pro's out there using short and long pips ? or medium and long? On the same blade

Male or female?  They are probably all penholders, but yes, they exist.  Zhou Xintong is the first that comes to mind.

Penholder's interesting do they use RPB then? SP on FH i am presuming
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Originally posted by Matt Pimple Matt Pimple wrote:

Pros? That's a difficult question. Amelie Solja comes to mind: short/medium pips on fh and anti on bh.

SP and anti that'll be a ball whacker for sure LOL
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Originally posted by viva viva wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by viva viva wrote:

Any Pro's out there using short and long pips ? or medium and long? On the same blade

Male or female?  They are probably all penholders, but yes, they exist.  Zhou Xintong is the first that comes to mind.

Penholder's interesting do they use RPB then? SP on FH i am presuming

She twiddles but LP mostly on the forehand, SP on the backhand except when serving.  No RPB.  You can find her videos on youtube - she is a pretty tough opponent and is on CNT/Super League.
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Originally posted by viva viva wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by viva viva wrote:

Any Pro's out there using short and long pips ? or medium and long? On the same blade

Male or female?  They are probably all penholders, but yes, they exist.  Zhou Xintong is the first that comes to mind.

Penholder's interesting do they use RPB then? SP on FH i am presuming


Mostly twiddle more than RPB, but yes, i've seen RPB with SP/LP cpen
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I think Zhou Xing Tong is the closest one in modern game. She is a lp sp cpen...
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Jian Zhan

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Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

Originally posted by viva viva wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by viva viva wrote:

Any Pro's out there using short and long pips ? or medium and long? On the same blade

Male or female?  They are probably all penholders, but yes, they exist.  Zhou Xintong is the first that comes to mind.

Penholder's interesting do they use RPB then? SP on FH i am presuming


Mostly twiddle more than RPB, but yes, i've seen RPB with SP/LP cpen

she does rpb and chen qing and chai powa   deng yaping 's nemesis
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Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

she does rpb and chen qing and chai powa   deng yaping 's nemesis
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Many forumers here have watched the match videos of Zhou Xintong.
I think I saw Zhou Xintong used her BH (sp) to attack.
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Before today I never even thought about twiddling Cpen Players Embarrassed shows how much I know.

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I just have tried Zhou Xintong style, and I think I need the same equipment of her. What is her blade, pips???
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Originally posted by DaNgo DaNgo wrote:

I just have tried Zhou Xintong style, and I think I need the same equipment of her. What is her blade, pips???
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I got this information from a good friend, AJay (a forummer here):

Zhou Xintong's setup.

Blade:  Nittaku Runlox 5.
FH rubber:  Dawei 388D-1 Quattro over 0.6mm sponge.
BH rubber:  TSP Spectol (short pips).

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Zhou Xintong is a LP penhold player.
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Zhou Xintong vs Wu Yang (start: 8:50)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kto1HvSgNBw

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Zhou Xintong vs Li Xiaoxia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th2OqDSBsRc

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Zhou XT's blade is no longer Runlox.

From the look of it, it looks like a Nittaku Bizelox.

Also, I now believe the sponge to be 0.5mm.

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DaNgo said:  "I just have tried Zhou Xintong style ...................".
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What is her world ranking?
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Originally posted by AcudaDave AcudaDave wrote:

What is her world ranking?
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Zhou Xintong world ranking:  
ITTF:  #92, June, 2014.  No ranking after June.
Ratings Central:  #77 (rating 2442).
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From ITTF:
June 2014.
Reg (Regular):  92
U21:  28



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Zhou Xintong vs Zhu Yuling  (starts at 14:00)

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(Match 1, (posted earlier already
Zhou Xintong vs Wu Yang (start: 8:50)
Zhou (green shirt),  Wu (purple shirt)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kto1HvSgNBw
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Match 2 :  Zhou Xintong vs Wu Yang  (start 2:20)
Zhou (purple shirt),  Wu (black shirt)
This match has much better video quality.




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she looks like a nightmare to play. I may have to try some type of fast attacking long pips on my FH. She is deadly with it.
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He's not a pro but a high level amateur who you can learn a lot from if you want to see short pip & long pip in action... And no with this setup (SP - forehand, LP - backhand) you're not using RPB too much. It's mostly TPB and twiddling.

Now if you play inverted & LP, then you can use RPB. Primarily on serve return. That's because you have the LP on your forehand to take most serves. When your opponent tries to dumb it down and serve you say short no spin balls (because spiny serves are great for LPs. Just more to return back to them), then you can over the table RPB flip those.

Anyways, back on track. Here he is. 

Wang Jian Jiang
(black - SP, Red - LP)






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Also Wang Qiu Yi is amazing to watch. 

But inverted & LP.

About the best attacking LP player I've ever seen. If you didn't know any better, you'd swear she's playing SP on that red side. But no.
(black - inverted, red - LP.. Palio CK531a)





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Originally posted by suds79 suds79 wrote:

He's not a pro but a high level amateur who you can learn a lot from if you want to see short pip & long pip in action... And no with this setup (SP - forehand, LP - backhand) you're not using RPB too much. It's mostly TPB and twiddling.

Now if you play inverted & LP, then you can use RPB. Primarily on serve return. That's because you have the LP on your forehand to take most serves. When your opponent tries to dumb it down and serve you say short no spin balls (because spiny serves are great for LPs. Just more to return back to them), then you can over the table RPB flip those.

Anyways, back on track. Here he is. 

Wang Jian Jiang
(black - SP, Red - LP)




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ZingyDNA posted a video of:  Wang Jian Jiang vs Li Zhi-Ming
Li Zhi-Ming won easily.
I can not find that video anymore.

Hope ZingyDNA is still around.


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Found it.
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Li Zhi-Ming beat Wang Jian Jiang easily.  (Video below, courtesy of ZingyDNA)


Update:  Li Zhi-Ming has a current USATT rating of 2270.


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Originally posted by suds79 suds79 wrote:

Also Wang Qiu Yi is amazing to watch. 

But inverted & LP.

About the best attacking LP player I've ever seen. If you didn't know any better, you'd swear she's playing SP on that red side. But no.
(black - inverted, red - LP.. Palio CK531a)

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