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malin87 
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Hey guys..which glue do u think is the best??
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Icecream AZX,T05,Spectol21
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JohnnyChop
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Elmer's Rubber cement for cost effectiveness!
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It's not legal right? If you're not playing in sanctioned tournaments then you can use anything. Although, not sure if there is any bad effects on the new rubbers.
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Matt Pimple
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I 2nd Johnny on that. 
It is illegal to be above a certain VOC level so just don't glue up the day before the tournament and give it a couple of days to air out. VOC glue had been used before WBG for many decades and no, it does not have a bad effect on new rubbers.
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I find Elmer's to be not sticky or quick drying enough, especially if you need the assembled racket quick. I usually have to put heavy weights on the assembled racket for a few hours or overnight. I get pretty good results with LKT WBG. Ready to play in about 20 minutes and somewhat easy to remove when it comes time to change rubbers.
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hookumsnivy
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I stick to Elmer's rubber cement as well. I tried some of the cheap non-VOC alternatives and they just aren't as good as elmers.
Pros: Super cheap. Easy to apply Quick (I disagree with GMan4911 on this one - I coat the blade, then the sponge and in just a few minutes it's good to go) Good bond Sometimes you can even pull the rubber off an slap it onto another blade without adding more glue. Your mileage may vary with that though. If it doesn't work, just some on the blade usually covers it. Cons: You can't glue the day of or day before a tournament if they test (admittedly I don't get a chance to play in many tournaments, but I've never had mine tested) |
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I think you must be trying to put it on wet or someting. You should be able to do a glue job in about 15min with elmers...maybe 30 at the outside.
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Yup yup… as long as you leave it for couple of days, it should be fine!
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wasn't there a discussion where Samsonov and LSW said the water based glue ruins the blade and they switch every three monthish now?
Thats why i stick with Elmer's
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i find wbg offers better feeling vs rc but yea wbg does change the blade like water warps wood.
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I use some unknown brand, think it starts with a D., works great for me, can't say whats best because I haven't tried that many.
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Dianchi all the way.
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I have tried most of the water based glues and they are ok but way over priced. I started using Elmer's again with excellent results. There is no voc testing at the tournaments I go to so no problems.
Elmer's is a super bargain that works well. One thin coat to blade and rubber does it. 
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#1 - Elmers rubber cement.
Cheap, fast, works perfectly. Could pass any type of test within a couple of days if you really cared about that. #2 - Tear Mender. Again cheap for a WBG. Can get a great deal on it if you order from Walmart.com I use it on OX rubbers and probably for any tenor rubbers even though I don't really buy those. But I hear Rubber cement on tensors is bad so I use Tear Mender there. That's all you need.
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I also use Elmer's - but I have to import it. Even with the shipping it is cheaper than the wbg!
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I haven't used Elmer's since speed glue days, and then I reglued each time I played. Can anyone comment on shrinkage? Anyone used it with Tenergy?
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I have come to the conclusion that it is better to use old style VOC glue. WBG - regardless of the brand, including the likes of Revo - dampens excessively and causes me to lose 2-3 points per game. So I have just switched back to VOC and enjoying the benefits of FEEL.
Don't worry about shrinkage, just wait a couple of hours before putting on the rubber. One thing strikes me though: it could be that you can use non-composite blades with VOC to achieve similar speed to composite + WBG. It is just an assumption at the moment but so far it looks like it is true. |
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I use it with T05 and did not have any major issues. I apply 2 thin layers on the sponge (on a new T05 otherwise only 1 layer) and 1 layer on the blade, let dry and do NOT roll it on. I just gently press it onto the blade and then a couple of books on top for a couple of hours. Voila! When cutting a new rubber you may want to leave an extra 1-2mm but I never had any real problems.
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I use Elmers rubber cement on Chinese rubbers and Tear Mender on tensors. They are cheap and easy to use comparing w/ other water-based glues.
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I've found Adidas glue the best of the expensive VOC-free glues. It pulls off easily and it rolls off the rubber/blade fairly easily. Good for OX pips players like me.
Can you really use Elmers on OX pips? I would think that it would cause too much curling.
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I'm used to it and can do it without, but I used to put a can of vegetables (top down) on each corner of the rubber until it dried to hold it flat.
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You start gluing in the center then work your way to the edges last. The last thing you do is the bottom lip, as it is the part that curls most.
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I don't remember where I read this tip, but it was likely on here. To simplify gluing OX pips: Before cutting the rubber, staple it to cardboard. This will make it sturdier and will prevent curling. Add glue, attach it to the blade and when it's good, just cut off the cardboard and cut the rubber.
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I didn't realize so many of you still use Elmer's. I just bought some Paddle Palace WBG, but looks like that might be going back to them. I don't play in any tournaments, just a couple local leagues and mostly recreationally. Pretty sure a $4 jar of Elmer's is all I need.
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I also like Elmers. But when the craft store was out of Elmers, I tried Best-Test Quality Rubber Cement. It also works very well.
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Best Test and Elmers are both very good and each is vastly superior to the WBG crap needlessly forced upon players by the ITTF. Rubber cement does get a bit thick after awhile but can easily be thinned with a little lighter fluid (don't use paint thinner). As for the so-called VOC issue, 99.9 percent of all players will never have their racquet tested, so unless you are a pro, no worries mate! Edited by AL_in_MN - 12/18/2014 at 12:31pm |
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Elmer's rules! Cheap and easy to apply/remove.
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