Float serving

What is a float serve? Is it a no spin?

Yes, sorry. The key is the disguise, i use pendulum and looking for it to look like side spin but is actually no spin/float

It's not my best serve but an important one. Here is an important factor to think about that I don't think gets factored in enough. And kudos to those players out there who do.

Disguise is important here or its gonna be killed. I am not precise enough to pick where I contact the ball on the racket, so what I do is I would use the same motion as my underpin serve except at the point of contact my blade is slightly more open and I am trying to eat the ball into the sponge and hit it forward instead of grazing through the ball and that creates a low/no spin serve for me!

smackman wrote: suds79 wrote: It's not my best serve but an important one. Here is an important factor to think about that I don't think gets factored in enough. And kudos to those players out there who do. The two bounces in your serve, one on your side and one on their side before they contact the ball will naturally put slight topspin on the ball with it's forward momentum. The key, I think, is to make sure it's no spin when they contact it. Not no spin when you serve it. Having said that, I'll often give the ball a very faint backspin when I serve it. The two topspin bounces tend to negate that and voilà, it's no spin by the time they get it. hmm slight backspin gives two top spin bounces = no spin  pissing myself (maybe I come acroos as rude but you read it)  slight backspin = a slight back spin serve not what you are trying to say

I hear you Mr Suds and you can write anything you want

Edited by smackman - 01/12/2015 at 10:53pm

I think what Suds is trying to say is that spin dissipates and disappears with time (given enough time, a spinning ball will stop spinning), and if you only put some very light backspin, by the TIME is has bounced for the second time, the spin has dissipated and is effectively a float.

One other thing is a no-spin serve had better be low.  Sometimes it's effective to serve heavy backspin that bounces high, especially if it is long, because it tempts people to hit slightly down.  But a high no-spin just gets killed.

smackman wrote: I hear you Mr Suds and you can write anything you want and some people may agree with what you are saying but from my experience  the spin is continued   To me a float is pretending to spin and as others have said disguising the serve with before and after actions

pretending to spin WILL add a slight back spin dude

Suds is right!!!

It is often very effective to be able to execute a high spin serve and a no-spin serve with identical motion - the trick is the difference in where you contact the ball, how long is the contact with the ball, and whether you do something with the last wrist snap.

Serve high-underspin serve first, then - do the no-spin serve with the almost identical motion. Important thing is to know what you expect from your opponent and be ready for corresponding return in both cases. For instance, first, he pushes back your underspin serve - hopefully not too short - and you start your attack with opening backhand loop. Then on the second serve he does the same thing but as a result he pops up the ball and you are ready to kill it with fast loop-drive (preferably into his body).