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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

I find it hard to believe the Yinhe person about that, except for the possiblilty that they have different quality control criteria.  As for a third generation of the ball, I am curious about when that started, since the balls I have gotten from april of 2014 are virtually indestructible unless they hit a sharp edge very hard.

One difference could be internal pressure.  Remember that one of the original features of the seamless was that it could be pressurized up to (as I recall) three atmospheres.
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I suppose it could be, but it's nothing I can discern playing with them, XSF, Yinhe, both very good.
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The price of the training/club ball has gone up as well on megaspin.

That said, I am stocked up on XSF balls for the year and it is going to be my primary training ball.
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Originally posted by wturber wturber wrote:

One difference could be internal pressure.  Remember that one of the original features of the seamless was that it could be pressurized up to (as I recall) three atmospheres.


I just punched a tiny hole on each polar end of a new XSF Sports ball (latest batch) that was not perfectly round with a sewing needle, then performed a bounce test with another new XSF Sports ball fresh out of the box.  After releasing both of them at the height of 48" simultaneously, the resulting bounce height is identical for both. 

So I guess it's safe to say these seamless balls are not pressurized. 


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Originally posted by roundrobin roundrobin wrote:

Originally posted by wturber wturber wrote:

One difference could be internal pressure.  Remember that one of the original features of the seamless was that it could be pressurized up to (as I recall) three atmospheres.


I just punched a tiny hole on each polar end of a new XSF Sports ball (latest batch) that was not perfectly round with a sewing needle, then performed a bounce test with another new XSF Sports ball fresh out of the box.  After releasing both of them at the height of 48" simultaneously, the resulting bounce height is identical for both. 

So I guess it's safe to say these seamless balls are not pressurized. 

Probably so - for the XSF ball.  But you'd actually need to do the same with other brands as well to see if they also fail to differ when punctured.

 I've been dropping balls using a contraption (trap door made from mousetrap) that should give results pretty close to the ITTF T3 setup and with an accuracy of less than 1mm.  I should find two XSF balls that bounce nearly identically and then puncture one and compare using my setup. 
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At Eacheng in China, the Yinhe *** balls (ITTF) are actually at US$4.99 for a box of 6. This is a good price.

http://www.eacheng.net/index.php?act=detail&ID=3980
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Shipping is pretty rough from eacheng, though.
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

The price of the training/club ball has gone up as well on megaspin.

That said, I am stocked up on XSF balls for the year and it is going to be my primary training ball.

XSF training poly-balls? Seamless? Good enough for a robot?

Where do you buy them?
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Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

The price of the training/club ball has gone up as well on megaspin.

That said, I am stocked up on XSF balls for the year and it is going to be my primary training ball.

XSF training poly-balls? Seamless? Good enough for a robot?

Where do you buy them?

I think Nextlevel is using the regular XSF 3 star polyballs. Dont order the XSF training balls, those wobble alot and dont play well at all. 

I ordered some XSF 3 star balls from TTNPP about a year ago...and the price still has not changed for a while. 

http://ttnpp.com/store/ball/798-xushaofa-new-seamless-poly-ball-3-stars-ittf-x-72-39.html

ttnpp is a little slow with shipping sometimes. 
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