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    Posted: 01/25/2015 at 8:14am
For those who can not afford the price of Tenergy 05, there are some rubbers that can be a substitute.

One is Haifu Bigwhale. The only thing this rubber lacks compared to Tenergy 05 is catapult, so you may need to use Booster Glue for a few times. Once this rubber is softened, it will deliver the effect close to Tenergy 05. If you can't afford Booster Glue, you may use Parrafin oil to soften the rubber. At under $20 each, this rubber is around one-third the price of Tenergy 05, with some extra cost for Booster Glue.

Another rubber to substitute Tenergy 05  is the Palio family, such as Palio Macro Pro, Palio New Era, or Palio Blitz depending on your preference for spiny or power loop. At about $30, this rubber is half the price of Tenergy 05, and you don't have to spend extra on Booster Glue.

One rubber which comes very close to Tenergy 05 is Rakza 7 by Yasaka, or Rakza 7 Soft depending on your preference for spin, power or control. At under $60 each, this rubber is about $10 cheaper than Tenergy 05, and delivers similar effect
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Rakza 7 is really really different rubber vs tenergy, much lower throw angle and different dinamic behaviour, of course for those who can feel those differences.
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One i've tried is Joola express1,quite good rubber!(always using it with booster)
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geez, what year is this? Smile
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Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

geez, what year is this? Smile


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Next up...... player XXXXXXXXXXXX has an illegal serve.  But before that, how do I learn a Chinese Loop?
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1.  Tenergy substitutes
 2.  Chinese vs. European loops
 3.  Illegal Serves 
 4.  Zhang Jike vs Ma Long
 5.  First setup - ALL+ with traditional rubbers or OFF with tensioned rubbers
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 7.  Who has the best forehand? 
 8.  Smoothest player.
 9.  I need X rubber for Y setup
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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Next up...... player XXXXXXXXXXXX has an illegal serve.  But before that, how do I learn a Chinese Loop?
Get a Chinese coach.  I have one now.
Honestly, I don't know if there is a difference.  I have no idea what people are talking about and I doubt those that talk about it have any idea themselves.


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we should have a common faq section where all these questios have their own thread.
I do think these questions are valid and answers will change over time.. and they are interesting discussion and informational. At least I enjoy reading them as reference. :)
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Originally posted by pnachtwey pnachtwey wrote:

Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Next up...... player XXXXXXXXXXXX has an illegal serve.  But before that, how do I learn a Chinese Loop?

Get a Chinese coach.  I have one now.
Honestly, I don't know if there is a difference.  I have no idea what people are talking about and I doubt those that talk about it have any idea themselves.




Dude.   Some things are not meant to be taken lliteraly.
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Baal,  I found his answer to be in the spirit of the question.

Edited by NextLevel - 01/25/2015 at 10:53pm
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Honestly, guys, can someone just give a couple good hyperlinks here to the previous similar threads we had and that way answer the OP?
(1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH.
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Originally posted by JacekGM JacekGM wrote:

Honestly, guys, can someone just give a couple good hyperlinks here to the previous similar threads we had and that way answer the OP?

Voltron, the OP is not asking a question - he is creating a thread to answer a question that we have asked a million times before.
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Originally posted by adishorul adishorul wrote:

Rakza 7 is really really different rubber vs tenergy, much lower throw angle and different dinamic behaviour, of course for those who can feel those differences.

Yeah sadly you can't even compare Rakza 7 and Tenergy when it comes to quality and touch. 
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There is no substitute to T05.
With the correct adjustments one can live with Powergrip or MX-p.
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Donic Bluefire M2 in my experience is another good substitute
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by JacekGM JacekGM wrote:

Honestly, guys, can someone just give a couple good hyperlinks here to the previous similar threads we had and that way answer the OP?

Voltron, the OP is not asking a question - he is creating a thread to answer a question that we have asked a million times before.
"Nice" name calling? 
NL, I still think a new person can (should be allowed to) sometimes repeat-ask, so the simplest, and mature, way is to give good, proven hyperlinks and keep everyone happy. 
(1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH.
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I found this
http://www.experttabletennis.com/tenergy-05-alternatives-the-best-of-the-rest/
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NextLevel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/26/2015 at 8:15am
Originally posted by JacekGM JacekGM wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by JacekGM JacekGM wrote:

Honestly, guys, can someone just give a couple good hyperlinks here to the previous similar threads we had and that way answer the OP?

Voltron, the OP is not asking a question - he is creating a thread to answer a question that we have asked a million times before.
"Nice" name calling? 
NL, I still think a new person can (should be allowed to) sometimes repeat-ask, so the simplest, and mature, way is to give good, proven hyperlinks and keep everyone happy. 

My apologies... couldn't resist the opportunity to use that word to refer to a good friend...

But my point is that he is not asking a question and you can find the links yourself and provide them if you think that is the right approach.  The truth is that most of us who have used Tenergy extensively don't even look for substitutes anymore.  We've accepted that Tenergy is somewhat unique and that while other rubbers have come much closer in performance, the quirks still mean that you may still prefer Tenergy even if another rubber performs as well or supposedly better.  His answer is 3-4 years too late.


Edited by NextLevel - 01/26/2015 at 8:16am
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by JacekGM JacekGM wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by JacekGM JacekGM wrote:

Honestly, guys, can someone just give a couple good hyperlinks here to the previous similar threads we had and that way answer the OP?

Voltron, the OP is not asking a question - he is creating a thread to answer a question that we have asked a million times before.
"Nice" name calling? 
NL, I still think a new person can (should be allowed to) sometimes repeat-ask, so the simplest, and mature, way is to give good, proven hyperlinks and keep everyone happy. 

My apologies... couldn't resist the opportunity to use that word to refer to a good friend...

But my point is that he is not asking a question and you can find the links yourself and provide them if you think that is the right approach.  The truth is that most of us who have used Tenergy extensively don't even look for substitutes anymore.  We've accepted that Tenergy is somewhat unique and that while other rubbers have come much closer in performance, the quirks still mean that you may still prefer Tenergy even if another rubber performs as well or supposedly better.  His answer is 3-4 years too late.
Well, I must agree, what else can I do?
I could go find the links, true, but I thought some other guys here would know them much better...
(1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH.
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(1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH.
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