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Good blade to pair with JUIC Dany III |
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dorfmeister
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Posted: 01/25/2015 at 2:04pm |
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I am trying to find a good blade and rubber combo for developing an all around game.
I like the description of the Juic Dany III. What would you recommend for a good blade to combo with this? |
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dorfmeister
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Also, it comes in 1.5 and 2.0 thickness. I am figuring 1.5 is probably better for slower game play and maintaining control.
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dorfmeister
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Should also probably mention I am interested in developing a range of fundamental shots rather than becoming a defensive specialist.
Some blades I've been pondering: Hallmark Strategy Stiga Allround Classic Donic Appelgren Exclusive AR Donic Wang Xi Dotec Control Plus I have tried a Stiga Allround Classic with Mendo Energy and It played faster than the cheap paddles I've gotten used to. I'd like something slower and even more control oriented than the Classic with the Mendo. I did really like the Legend flared handle on the classic, though. Would also be willing to entertain recommendations for other slow, low spin, high control rubbers other than the Dany 3. That one simply struck me and I had seen a couple of positive mentions that seemed to imply it would serve my purposes well. Edited by dorfmeister - 01/25/2015 at 8:03pm |
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Baal
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I think the Donic Appelgren Allplay and the Sgiga Allround Classic are great blades you can use for a long time even if your level improves dramatically, and they are definitely not for defensive specialists.
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dorfmeister
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Thanks for the reply. I did like the way the Stiga Allround classic felt in my hands and balanced. I've got fairly large hands and the Legend flared profile seemed to fit my hand well. Have not had a chance to try out a Donic Applegren Allplay. |
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Baal
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Yes, the Stiga Legend handle is a classic, especially for tall people. The Donic handles are nice too.
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dorfmeister
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Thanks. Any thoughts on how the Donic flared handle differs from the Stiga Legend flared handle? |
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NextLevel
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Where are you buying the rubbers from? The rubber seems a bit slow but can work. I second Baal's recommendations thus far. Many different blades/rubber combos are possible - it all depends on how you want to play and whether you have anybody to help you do better strokes.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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dorfmeister
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I am in the United States. I have been looking at the Paddle Palace site.
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NextLevel
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OK. It's likely that you are new to the TT equipment purchasing process. Do you play at a club or mostly at home with friends/family?
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
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dorfmeister
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I play at home against my nephew who is a very good tennis player, though completely unschooled in table tennis. I played a lot of table tennis a lot years ago with a guy I also played tennis with. Both of us were unschooled but could get good hard hitting topspin rallies going but knew nothing of the subtleties of table tennis technique.
I am trying to find people to play against regularly. My nephew and I get together about once a month and get in a good 3 hour session. I also plan to get a cheap Ipong robot to be able to practice daily to help groove my strokes and get my timing down. I plan to get a dvd or two to help me with proper technique. I never learned proper serve technique and am trying to develop that. Edited by dorfmeister - 01/25/2015 at 8:37pm |
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Yes, that site seemed to have a pretty good selection and information. I figured on having them assemble the racket. Do you have other sources you think are better? I am working to school myself and have been digging around in the forum for info. Edited by dorfmeister - 01/25/2015 at 8:45pm |
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OK - you have a couple of approaches you can take.
Firstly, equipment price doesn't always equate to quality in TT, and the marginal benefit of supposedly good equipment isn't as high as someone new to the game would think. I would personally recommend that you speak to Cole at colestt.com. He is a vendor of some decent Chinese brands which he has as an experienced player usually controls for quality. He can get you something at less than half the price of PaddlePalace (also an excellent place to shop, though that is built into their prices and overhead) that will do what you need. It's better to do that than to go for the bottom level brand at PaddlePalace. I would personally recommend something like 1.8mm Dawei XP Super Power 2008 rubbers on any of the ALL/ALL+ blades that Cole sells. If you want to do PaddlePalace, you can use the Appelgren Allplay or the Appelgren AR Exclusive (I have two - it's a slow blade but it will give you all the control you want - not a fan of the fat handle though but people differ and I did use it for a few months). Or even the Butterfly Grubba blade (ALL-). I don't know much about Juic Dany but the speed ratings are pretty low so you won't have control problems, that's for sure. However, they are low enough to concern me as to whether it even qualifies to be an inverted rubber. But since a reviewer compares it to Butterfly Flextra, it can't be that bad. I would just be concerned about how easy it will be for you to go on offense and counter-offense, but the control on defensive and touch strokes will be fantastic. BTW, as long as you are getting something standard and popular in the class of rubber and blade you are looking for, don't spend forever trying to get it right. If you are in this for the long term, skills and preferences do change so it's usually better to just get something reasonable and cheap for what you want to do and go from there. Equipment is the easiest thing to change, but it is generally the last contributor to significant improvement (and usually a marginal one except in extreme cases). Finally, if you want TT instruction (videos/online) it's hard to do better than pingskills.com and ttedge.com. Both are Australian sites coincidentally, but they do great stuff for learning/teaching strokes if you understand that the process is one from basic to advanced, and not one where you just jump in doing what the pros do.
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Those rubbers are quite slow, so if you're trying to develop your game, I'd suggest you go for 2.0mm. |
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OP, until you get a 1/100 understanding of what does what for equipment, get what some good player in your area can tell as SUITABLE for your playing style and use that at least 6 months. By that ammount of time playing, you will meet enough players and try their stuff out and have a much better understanding of equipemnt.
Spending too much time weighing all the possible options is only gunna lead to more indecision. There are too many possible suitable equipement for every style, get something reasonable suitable within the ammount of money you want to spend and call it a day for 6 months.
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Warning: I have seen danny III in 2.0, it was heavy. If you combine this with the Grubba Pro blade recommended by NL just before your post (oversized blade), you will end up with a setup that takes some effort to move. That's why, about seven years ago, I stopped using Grubba Pro (black label), which otherwise was a super control blade for all rounders, but it was way too heavy with Sriver EL on it.
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(1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH.
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Well I decided to get the Paddle Palace combo special with the Stiga Allround Classic and Mendo Energy rubber as I had played briefly with a Stiga Allround Classic and liked the feel of the handle and the balance in my hand.
Thanks for all the recommendations given. |
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Nobody should (but some prolly will) argue against your choice(s) of bat/rubber. That setup should be capable of doing anything, just not great at it, except control, which is square in the middle of a pundit approved selection.
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Seemed like a solid choice. Peddle Palace recommends it as a first non pre-made bat. Stiga Allround is one of the most common blades out there. Not wildly expensive as a PP Pro combo. I think it should serve me fine for the near future.
Next is to get a fairly inexpensive robot so I can log some daily hitting time to refine and groove my strokes. Also trying to find more regular playing partners. |
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It's a good deal for $80, and IMO better than what OP originally wanted to buy.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
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