Best Chinese Rubbers

My latest new love is the new Friendship 729 Battle 2 (Tacky) rubber.  See my review on this thread.

May I ask what are LDTT and LIDU?

Best one that I had used is H3 Provincial old version. This Neo version is not tacky enough.

Believer wrote: May I ask what are LDTT and LIDU?

LIDU is quite a new brand founded by the Chemist from Haifu. His initial products are glue and booster. Last year, he launched a new rubber called LDTT (ITTF 140-001) and currently used by the some junior members in China and Korea. Currently, not much of marketing being done except word by mouth.

An interesting news I heard was .... China nationals are not allowed to use Haifu products.

Best chinese rubbers, well, I guess it depends on your type of game.

Edited by Hautamaeki - 01/30/2015 at 5:30am

That is a good question. It comes to preference. For an example, although h3 has better speed off the table, I don't hit too often far from table. So I prefer one that works better closer to the table. My review is to present my thoughts on the characteristics. But you will have to decide which characteristics fit your game better. Plus I have to tune h3 in order to play better, so to me, an untuned h3 is not as good as the battle 2. That's why I said that b2 is the most playable Chinese rubber out of the package. Once battle 2 tuning effect runs out, then it may not be a good one. But off the package, it works well for me.

802, or 802-40 is the best Chinese rubber 4ever!

to save money, i started with DHS TG2 Skyline, Neo H3 for $15 to $18. Then when i got better, I bought TinArc, Gold Arc, Andro Rasant (super fast), Joola Max, Nittaku C-2, Donic BlueFires then Butterfly Tenergy 05 & 64 (25 & 80 are not that great compare to 05 & 64 in my opinion).

And Remember, when you got used to the Tenergies.... you can't go back ! i don't know what they put in it but it really good !

Good luck and welcome to a new Journey !

It'd be so nice if someone who's tried a bunch can evaluate them on basic elasticity in normal & tangential direction plus tack & built-in tune instead of meaningless "good for block". Good for whose block? Literally only a one-line description is necessary to capture functional qualities unless there's some exceptional aspect.

For example, most of the newer ESN rubbers are similar to Tenergy in normal elasticity and somewhat less in tangential (ie. lower throw, less spin), and drop off faster due to heavier tune. Tuned non-tack Yinhe's (and most such chinese rubbers) are more like a  crappier ESN than Tenergy even if they use more natural rubber like T and have the grippier face. Most of the diffs here are maybe ~10%.

The chinese rubber that are almost as good tend to be heavily tuned and drop off even quicker than ESN.

In sum, if you buy at decent prices, the market is currently about a doubling in price (chinese-> esn->tenergy) for each ~10% step up at the faster end. To bring value you need to find the product that's exception to this.

How did we get this far without mentioning Big Dipper?

NextLevel wrote: How did we get this far without mentioning Big Dipper?

I'm sick of talking about how AMAZING it is.

Believer wrote: AndySmith, if you are still using Big Dipper, perhaps you can give Battle 2 a try as well.

But BD is just AMAZING. Urgh. I feel sick again now.

The hardness of Battle 2 puts me off. I much prefer BD 38 to the harder sponged versions, for example.

Edited by AndySmith - 01/29/2015 at 6:07pm

Hi Andy Smith

You're quite right that Chinese rubbers are pushing the ratio and performance compared to Jap and Euro.
However, Chinese rubbers prices are increasing as well. Starting from under $20, now most of them are getting around $30, not to mention those national Chinese rubbers could be as pricey as Butterfly.

I just met a guy who boasted to me that he just paid $90 for a chinese rubber. Is it true?

have anibody tried DHS PF4 before? I tried it once boosted in a blade I dont remember and I think it was more less like Big Dipper no booster. I put a big dipper on a korbel for one of my players (defensive), and he is very powerfull on the FH, I was Impressed, I would be using Big Dipper if TT-store.eu had it in black, so I use Yinhe Apollo 3 with booster. Ohh I put a DHS G888 on the backhand of another payer of mine, she is more controled now, she used Aurus before.

Hi Believer

At USD22, B2 is not cheap for a chinese-made rubber, especially a 729!
Compared to H3, apart from not having to tune, do you find any advantage of B2 when using on the FH?
For example, lower/deeper loop? faster/ punchier smash?

Have you played Haifu Bigwhale before? If yes, how does B2 compare to Bigwhale?

Hi Believer,

Do you recommend 729B2 for FH or BH ?