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Originally posted by wturber wturber wrote:



The general strategy seems to be to make the opponent play a game he doesn't want to play by:

1) Changing the timing and pace by taking the ball early.
2) Using anti or LP on one side only which makes the opponent spend a tad more time "reading" the spin
3) Placing the ball in unusual/difficult locations that the opponent then has to adjust to.
4) Returning a higher percentage of attacks.


1), 3) and 4) have nothing to do with equipment or even style, and everything to do with skill. 2) can be blamed on his opponents, not him
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Those are just emphasized skills for pushblocking compared to others points of focus for topspin attack like generating speed or footwork.
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That penhold player isn't much to look at.
But if I play him, I don't stand a chance - the guy is probably worth 2000 usatt.
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Originally posted by frogger frogger wrote:


It's painful to watch.

+1, What's the point of pushblocking with RPB when he can just use forehand to do that.  Seems very unnecessary.  His style is both painful and ugly to watch...Cry
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Originally posted by liulin04 liulin04 wrote:

Originally posted by frogger frogger wrote:


It's painful to watch.

+1, What's the point of pushblocking with RPB when he can just use forehand to do that.  Seems very unnecessary.  His style is both painful and ugly to watch...Cry

It allows him to use his FH side to serve, smash and loop without twiddling.
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Originally posted by ZingyDNA ZingyDNA wrote:

Originally posted by wturber wturber wrote:



The general strategy seems to be to make the opponent play a game he doesn't want to play by:

1) Changing the timing and pace by taking the ball early.
2) Using anti or LP on one side only which makes the opponent spend a tad more time "reading" the spin
3) Placing the ball in unusual/difficult locations that the opponent then has to adjust to.
4) Returning a higher percentage of attacks.


1), 3) and 4) have nothing to do with equipment or even style, and everything to do with skill. 2) can be blamed on his opponents, not him

1, 3, & 4 are all standard strategies employed by pushblockers.  Regarding "2", the issue isn't blame.  The point is that since anti or LP are less common, most players will take a bit longer to read spin and/or will make more mistakes reading spin.  That is an element in many pushblockers' (all?) strategies.  "Blame" is beside the point. 
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LOLLOL

You guys don't recognize that? That's the v-grip. Which is the name Tom Veatch gave it. Don't know what it's called in CN. 

I still have the ones I made and the one I bought from China. 
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Haha that was weird... but funny Smile
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Originally posted by V-Griper V-Griper wrote:

LOLLOL

You guys don't recognize that? That's the v-grip. Which is the name Tom Veatch gave it. Don't know what it's called in CN. 

I still have the ones I made and the one I bought from China. 


Notice the back (in addition to front) is same as pen-hold. It's just a penhold with the handle cut off for a better angle on the "RPB", and a block inserted to prevent slip due to the newfound lack of contact surface.

That v-grip (rest of fingers wrapped around an "angled" handle) seems to have started with SH.

It's arguable they might meet somewhere in the middle if you keep pushing from both ends, but they started off with different motivations.
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