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kurokami 
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 Posted: 03/11/2015 at 2:05am |
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can anyone clarify if "innerfiber" is just rebadged innerforce? in the catalog descriptions it seems to suggest they're the same.
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Posted: 03/11/2015 at 3:05am |
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kurokami my friend, ofc it is the same.If u see any of the old blade series of innerforce, on the blade font it is written the word "innerfibre".So it is the same!
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Bran
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Posted: 03/11/2015 at 3:35am |
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Actually my understanding is they're koto top. Butterfly seems to have retired their limba-ALC blades, if this is confirmed. Maybe they deemed it too mushy for poly balls.
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mg
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Posted: 03/11/2015 at 7:26am |
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No, looks like it's the same Limba outer veneer, maybe just a redesign with the new logo.
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AMonteiro
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Posted: 03/11/2015 at 10:04am |
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New catalog is already avaliable at BTY Europe and the series name is still Innerforce.
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Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR
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BB-Big
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Posted: 03/11/2015 at 10:38am |
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In the description, the new innerlayer ZLC has smaller headsize. Thickness is the same.
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vivan4tt
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Posted: 03/11/2015 at 11:02am |
Yup it is the same, just a rebadge. Also the bad new is the price increase on their best seller : timo boll spirit. I already knew that TBS was an "issue" for butterfly because very cheap (compared to other viscaria-likle blades) and a best seller, so they can not remove such a best seller from the market so they have increased the price, again. For those who remember, when TB alc was released the price of TB alc was 99.90€, and TBS was 69.90€........not even a year after they increased the price of all TB series and TB alc (and Maze alc) by 30€ and here is again a price increase on the TBS making the entry ticket to the viscaria familly at 119.90€ now :(
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Mizutani sZLC / T05fx / T05fx
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TKMP
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Posted: 03/12/2015 at 1:07am |
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catalog 2015 from Japan.
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aroonkl
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Posted: 05/03/2015 at 7:09pm |
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When is the USA released date? I don't see BTY USA list Innerforce ZLC anymore? So they discontinue to produce/carry it.
Is Inner-fiber ZLC out in Japan yet? |
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LOOPMEISTER
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Posted: 05/04/2015 at 3:31pm |
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For new blades that are now available in other countries, and soon to be available in North America, Butterfly NA is doing a horrible job of promoting/hyping these new blades.
 They've hinted at them a few times in their email blasts but that's about it.Check on their website. They keep changing the date of availability, but I'm guessing the new blades should be coming in with one of their re-stock shipments towards the end of May. If I were them, I would be HYPING THESE BLADES UP!!! COMING SOON SOON SOON Soon soon!!!!!!!!!.....
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in2spin
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Posted: 05/05/2015 at 10:34am |
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http://www.butterfly.co.jp/2015blades/
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acid
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Posted: 05/06/2015 at 4:15am |
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i don't know about you guys !
But lately Butterfly doesn't make any blade that can make me go "WOW, I HAVE TO GET THAT BLADE" . They sure know how to raise their price though !
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if Life is short, play Ping Pong to make it longer :P
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bbkon
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Posted: 05/06/2015 at 1:56pm |
What blade is in the second pic?
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NextLevel
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Posted: 05/06/2015 at 1:58pm |
No one should make a blade that makes you go wow unless you are an EJ. |
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
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in2spin
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Posted: 05/06/2015 at 3:53pm |
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hadraw sr?
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Leftyy
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Posted: 05/06/2015 at 3:53pm |
I can agree with that a bit, can be because they have so many blades now with pretty much the same names so it's hard to find one that is unique and like you wrote get that wow feeling. It's also hard to choose one since I don't have afford to try so many out.
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frogger
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Posted: 05/06/2015 at 7:15pm |
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I have learned through the decades that if you find a certain model of BTY blade that you love buy 3-4 of them! Sure as hell BTY will discontinue it's production. So many fantastic blades gone forever...stupid BTY. 
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ahsq
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Posted: 05/07/2015 at 11:48am |
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so many blades so many missed out chances to try them. I kid.
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Xiom Vega Pro ST 85 grams $80 shipped Donic Waldner Senso Carbo JO shaped ST $40 shipped |
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carmelomaf
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Posted: 05/16/2015 at 11:43am |
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interesting....no more serial number on the surface of the made in japan blades?
de.butterfly.tt/tischtennis-hoelzer/innerforce-alc.html de.butterfly.tt/tischtennis-hoelzer/innerforce-layer-alc.html Edited by carmelomaf - 05/16/2015 at 11:50am |
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Tibhar MX-P 50 Max| BTY Boll ALC FL | Tibhar MX-S Max
an Italian playing TT in Germany |
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Vlad0
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Posted: 05/16/2015 at 11:59am |
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The blade i'am waiting for is still not invented. What a poor imagination. Even handles of the "new" innerfiber are the same - stupid rounded and thin.
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carmelomaf
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Posted: 05/16/2015 at 12:08pm |
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www.dpin100.com/goods-4886.html
here i see the serial number but in the german butterfly homepage not the hadraw blades are quite interesting expecially the VR one  i want it
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Tibhar MX-P 50 Max| BTY Boll ALC FL | Tibhar MX-S Max
an Italian playing TT in Germany |
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BB-Big
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Posted: 05/16/2015 at 12:53pm |
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I already own 2 of the new Hadraw VR blades. One bought from Japan and the other one from local supplier. Both of them have serial number.
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carmelomaf
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Posted: 05/16/2015 at 12:55pm |
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can you put a review of the blade?
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Tibhar MX-P 50 Max| BTY Boll ALC FL | Tibhar MX-S Max
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BB-Big
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Posted: 05/16/2015 at 9:32pm |
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I only played 1 session with Hadraw VR. I paired it with the max MX-P and HMP-beta(thick). Blade weight 92 g. Total weight 185-186 g. (MXP is too heavy)
Its structure is very similar to Stiga hardwood blades except the Wenge outer plies. It would be nice to directly compare it with the Stiga Emerald VPS. Blade face seems great. Polished, smooth and easy to glue. Handle is smaller than the Emerald. It is made by using simple wood that looks like a raw handmade blade. Emerald or Darker handles are more beautiful and more polish. It is fast for 5-ply all wood blade. More solid and less vibration than the Emerald. I cannot say much on its playing characteristic at this time. All i can say is I have a lot of fun playing with it. Can't wait to play with it again next week. |
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carmelomaf
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Posted: 05/17/2015 at 4:39am |
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Thants a lot
i don't like so much the new hardwood Stiga blades but i liked so much the HHao II blade that should be similar, except for Koto instead of Wenge |
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Tibhar MX-P 50 Max| BTY Boll ALC FL | Tibhar MX-S Max
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ahsq
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Posted: 05/18/2015 at 4:02pm |
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does BTY have any egg/drop shape blades?
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Xiom Vega Pro ST 85 grams $80 shipped Donic Waldner Senso Carbo JO shaped ST $40 shipped |
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Gerard_Taboada
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Posted: 05/20/2015 at 4:52pm |
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Does anyone know if the new " Timo Boll Offensive" is still OFF- like the old one? There is no info anywhere about its category.
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Immortar
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Posted: 01/09/2016 at 11:19pm |
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Is it worth the price then??
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osmar92
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Posted: 01/28/2016 at 4:47pm |
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Is it a mistake OFF- for Hadraw VR, it has better reaction time and vibration vs, for example, t Korbel which rated OFF!?
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SmackDAT
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Posted: 04/14/2016 at 4:16pm |
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Anyone tried any of the Hadraw blades in depth yet?
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