Butterfly Powersponge

Ok...I just put on the butterfly powersponge bryce and sriver...
at least I think I did...there are no distinguishing features that make it different from regular sriver or bryce...basically looking at the rubber I see no difference...there is no PS or anything acknowledging it is a powersponge...other than that it arrived in a foil packet.

pokerden wrote: Ok...I just put on the butterfly powersponge bryce and sriver... at least I think I did...there are no distinguishing features that make it different from regular sriver or bryce...basically looking at the rubber I see no difference...there is no PS or anything acknowledging it is a powersponge...other than that it arrived in a foil packet.

Not even on the sponge side?  No markings at all?

Sounds really good, tell us in a few weeks/months how they look like...

Do you know why Butterfly is not selling teh Power sponge?  You can not see it at www.butterfly-wolrd o www.butterflyonline.com.  Butterflyonline was advertizing the rubber but the already removed it

 

Any comment?

Isn't airing out the package basically ruining what they've been trying to accomplish? I don't think I would want an aired out BTY Power Sponge rubbers.

so you all better learn to play with unglued sriver

ttman,
No offense...but tom said he did not believe the players were DQed...its in your own message :-P. Even tom says his information is second hand about the new type sponges...and that all equipment manufacturers were sent messages to vent their packages (btw...powerspnge comes in a SEALED package...so no venting there :-P )

The powersponge is not the perfect solution to the glue problem but it is a step in the right direction. There are a bizillion less fumes with it than with speed gluing. But there are some issues...one is the damn bag is a pain in the butt...it takes some dexterity to slip the straw in one side and screw everything together...and guess what...by the next morning the damn bag is deflated.
I think there is also an issue of how long it will last. I have gone 6 days with it.
I don't think the effect today was as good as the first day I tried it...but I can't quantify it yet.
Today I played my first US Open event...and ended up on defense almost all my games as opposed to my normal attacking game...must be nerves.
Since the topsheet is the same as regular bryce...if the effect eventually goes away ...I guess I will start speed gluing again :)

 

Look here for information about the bag

http://www.dandoy-sports.com/index.php?cName=batcovers

AZNpenholdloop wrote: can any one post pics of the power sponge and its packaging?

Hi AZNpenholdloop, I took some pictures of my Bryce FX PowerSponge 2.1mm rubbers when I just got them 3 days ago in their original packaging. I will upload the pictures later tonight. The only difference in the packaging is the sealed aluminum foil covering the rubber. On the back of the sponge I noticed that previous Bryce FX 2.1 sponges had some Japanese letters beginning with a �FF� and these ones have a �GA� instead, not sure what that means though. Several things are written on the covers but I don�t know Japanese so I can�t tell the difference.

Speed and control are identical to my previous fresh glued FX rubbers with 2 thick layers. More spin and somehow louder click on the powersponges, if the sponge characteristics stay for 3-4 months like Butterly claims this will be the way to go. I also bought the ALU BAG but honestly it is becoming too much trouble to use that bag and looks pretty awkward to me.

 

 

Kreanga Carbon

FH - Bryce FX PowerSponge 2.1mm

BH - Bryce FX PowerSponge 2.1mm

 

Previously:

FH - Bryce FX  2.1mm glued.

BH - Cermet    2.1mm glued.

 

OK,  I bought Bryce PS Max for my FH and BH and bought the Al CO2 bag.   I have diligently stored the entire racket in the bag and have played with the sponge for about 1+ weeks (4 times).

The sponge does feel excellent with good click and glue feel equal to 3 layers of glue.  Truely superb given there is no glue.

On the other hand, I have watched the sponges shrink over the past week so that they now leave a thin silver ring of blade surface all the way around the sponge (I have a Kreanga Carbon).   This annular ring is about 2mm thick on average.  The sponges still feel really good but I can't say they feel as amazing as they did on the first day.  The cork sound doesn't seem as loud either.  

Now its possible that I caused the ring to form because of how I put them on and cut them.  On the first attachment, I used Clean Chack (a non-speed glue) and even though it is a basic glue, I think that it still made them expand a little bit before I attached and cut them.   Because my blade is a KC and more difficult to stick to, I've had to reattach the sheets to my blade with both clean chack and speed glue (occasionally an edge peel up off the blade because of a push and once the loose area gets a bit to big, I've got to reglue it.)  

I think that it would be better to use let the initial coat of glue dry for 4 hours to let any glue expansion, relax back down before sticking on and cutting the sheet.  Alternatively I might try a butterfly glue sheet since that way there won't be ANY expansion so, there will be less chance for subsequent shrinkage.  (Glue sheets stick pretty well to the KC.)   Also, I don't know if the regular or speed glue causes the sponge to loose gas faster or not, bif so, a glue sheet would preserve the integrity of the sponge better than any glue would.   PLUS - in the end, you should have a sheet of regular bryce that won't be too small and you could start to speed glue it again.

 

 

I would not be suprised if the price was $59.99 I bet will be

I know that, I bought a few sheets from them to sell I get a discount when I order there im saying butterflyonline.com will sell it for $60

JRSDallas wrote: On the other hand, I have watched the sponges shrink over the past week so that they now leave a thin silver ring of blade surface all the way around the sponge (I have a Kreanga Carbon).

  

Yes, I'm having the same problem with my Kreanga Carbon. I have to be careful not to put any pressure on the rubbers when gluing them or else I will get some shrinkage too, the blade's surface is very slippery.  Thanks for the recommendation about the quick glue sheets I just ordered some. BTW I'm using clean chack glue; have you found any other glue that bond better to KC?

Yep, I just ordered 10 BTY glue sheets just in case I want to try other rubbers. I will try the sheets first although the sanding solution sounds good too I will try that if needed. The powersponges shrink a little anyway, last night I was re-gluing them to the same blade but the rubber size is actually a bit smaller now so I ended up putting some pressure to compensate for the smaller size .

When I originally glued my power sponge sheets on, I did not do any stretching.  What expansion could have come from the 1st coat of regular glue would not account for the amount of shrinkage I now see in my power sponge rubbers.

On the other hand, I've spent the last year trying to avoid glueing and have moved from rubber-to-rubber and blade-to-blade trying to find that magic combination of speed, spin and feel.   It hasn't been great for my game.  Now in the first night back on the Kreanga Carbon and trying power sponge that same night, it becomes clear how much is missing from all of the rubbers I've tried compared against glued sponge (and glued Bryce in particular).   I'm now looking at going back to regular Bryce, glueing 3 layers and just staying with that. 

I also notice that while the red has more power, the black has more spin and gives more control on my FH loops.  So I now need what perturbation Red Bryce FX on the FH or perhaps Black Hard Sponge on the FH provides vs regular glued Bryce.  Then I'll pick my combination and stick with it (......except I have some sheets of Couga I could glue). 

Also, the Red Bryce has more power than the Black Bryce.