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    Posted: 04/19/2015 at 12:59pm
I have seen several players in the Japanese League playing with these but the blades are very little known outside of Japan. Has anyone had the chance to try them and could give a review. Some say that the Fortius FT (and the normal Fortius maybe aswell) works very well wirth short pips.

Here are some manufacturer specs:

Fortius
head size: 157x150
thickness: 6.7 mm




Fortius FT (Fine Touch)
head size 158x150
thickness: 6.4 mm





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Fortius is the same structure and thickness of BTY SK7. FT is used by Yuya Oshima (WR 57)
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Is using fortius ft or the regular one?
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Originally posted by AMonteiro AMonteiro wrote:

Fortius is the same structure and thickness of BTY SK7. FT is used by Yuya Oshima (WR 57)


I have looked at some pictures of the plies from sk7 and korbel sk7. Although the blade as a whole may have the same thickness the individual plies are different.
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Originally posted by Da Baobei Da Baobei wrote:

I have seen several players in the Japanese League playing with these but the blades are very little known outside of Japan. Has anyone had the chance to try them and could give a review. Some say that the Fortius FT (and the normal Fortius maybe aswell) works very well wirth short pips.

Here are some manufacturer specs:

Fortius
head size: 157x150
thickness: 6.7 mm




Fortius FT (Fine Touch)
head size 158x150
thickness: 6.4 mm






how do you know japan league pips players are using it? any video?
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Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

How do you know japan league pips players are using it? any video?


Oshima Yuya (no pips player though)

Morizono Misaki (currently using Clipper CR)

Yamanashi Yuri

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Originally posted by Da Baobei Da Baobei wrote:

Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

How do you know japan league pips players are using it? any video?


Oshima Yuya (no pips player though)

Morizono Misaki (currently using Clipper CR)

Yamanashi Yuri


do you know any top cpen players playing with short pips in the japan league beside tasaki and tasei?
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Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:


do you know any top cpen players playing with short pips in the japan league beside tasaki and tasei?


No sorry, but I will tell you if I come across any
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Fortius FT looks nice:


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Originally posted by Ray Ray wrote:

Fortius FT looks nice:



same structure as DHS 08, very uncommon
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Bought one with ST handle. We'll see how it plays.
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Looks very nice! Any ideas what the plies are?

Edited by Giangt - 08/15/2015 at 7:10am
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Limba Ayous Ayous Ayous Ayous Ayous Limba
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Originally posted by Da Baobei Da Baobei wrote:

Limba Ayous Ayous Ayous Ayous Ayous Limba
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Edited by Giangt - 08/15/2015 at 9:43am
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It looks like the Fortius FT has a very similar composition to the Xiom Extreme S blade.
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Another nice Clipper-like blade.
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Originally posted by Ray Ray wrote:

Another nice Clipper-like blade.

why there is no more blades with the same structure?
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Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by Ray Ray wrote:

Another nice Clipper-like blade.

why there is no more blades with the same structure?
Because there are already too many Clipper-like blades.
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The Fortius FT's composition is actually different than the Clipper's, beyond the fact it's limba outer and ayous inner. The plies are of even thicknesses, whereas the Clipper's aren't ― it's two thin plies under the top, then three thick ones. The FT is also thinner at 6.4mm.


I was looking at pictures and it's quite interesting. The Korbel SK7 core is two thin, two thick, then a thinner core. The Extreme S, Yasaka Overdrive and P700 are like the Clipper, with two thin, three thick plies. This doesn't tell the whole story as other factors come into play, like the relative and absolute thicknesses, the glue, the treatment of the plies. But it's interesting, I hadn't taken the time to check this before.
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Originally posted by Bran Bran wrote:

The Fortius FT's composition is actually different than the Clipper's, beyond the fact it's limba outer and ayous inner. The plies are of even thicknesses, whereas the Clipper's aren't ― it's two thin plies under the top, then three thick ones. The FT is also thinner at 6.4mm.


I was looking at pictures and it's quite interesting. The Korbel SK7 core is two thin, two thick, then a thinner core. The Extreme S, Yasaka Overdrive and P700 are like the Clipper, with two thin, three thick plies. This doesn't tell the whole story as other factors come into play, like the relative and absolute thicknesses, the glue, the treatment of the plies. But it's interesting, I hadn't taken the time to check this before.

the Extreme S has a more solid feeling than Clipper. When I looked at the ply structure of my Extreme S it looked very similar to the Fortius FT
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Originally posted by Da Baobei Da Baobei wrote:

I have seen several players in the Japanese League playing with these but the blades are very little known outside of Japan.



Who besides Oshima?
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I posted pictures...
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nobody else on the mens side?
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Nope, they almost exlusively use bty composites
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Originally posted by Skyline Skyline wrote:

Originally posted by Bran Bran wrote:

The Fortius FT's composition is actually different than the Clipper's, beyond the fact it's limba outer and ayous inner. The plies are of even thicknesses, whereas the Clipper's aren't ― it's two thin plies under the top, then three thick ones. The FT is also thinner at 6.4mm.


I was looking at pictures and it's quite interesting. The Korbel SK7 core is two thin, two thick, then a thinner core. The Extreme S, Yasaka Overdrive and P700 are like the Clipper, with two thin, three thick plies. This doesn't tell the whole story as other factors come into play, like the relative and absolute thicknesses, the glue, the treatment of the plies. But it's interesting, I hadn't taken the time to check this before.

the Extreme S has a more solid feeling than Clipper. When I looked at the ply structure of my Extreme S it looked very similar to the Fortius FT

pitty there is no cpen version
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Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by Skyline Skyline wrote:

Originally posted by Bran Bran wrote:

The Fortius FT's composition is actually different than the Clipper's, beyond the fact it's limba outer and ayous inner. The plies are of even thicknesses, whereas the Clipper's aren't ― it's two thin plies under the top, then three thick ones. The FT is also thinner at 6.4mm.


I was looking at pictures and it's quite interesting. The Korbel SK7 core is two thin, two thick, then a thinner core. The Extreme S, Yasaka Overdrive and P700 are like the Clipper, with two thin, three thick plies. This doesn't tell the whole story as other factors come into play, like the relative and absolute thicknesses, the glue, the treatment of the plies. But it's interesting, I hadn't taken the time to check this before.

the Extreme S has a more solid feeling than Clipper. When I looked at the ply structure of my Extreme S it looked very similar to the Fortius FT

pitty there is no cpen version

Just checked again and it seems that Bran is right after all.
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nobody tried yet?
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I've played with it 2-3 hours. Good blade. Thick St handle. Solid, Medium feel. Haven't played with a Clipper in 5 years so I can't compare.
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