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Blip 
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 Topic: Classic Rubber ComparisonPosted: 04/26/2015 at 10:51am |
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Helle MTT Community,
For the players that remember non tensor, tuned and glued rubbers, I'd like your feedback on comparing the following classic rubbers: Butterfly - Sriver Stiga - Mendo Donic - Coppa Donic - Vario Joola - Samba Nittaku - Magic Carbon Nittaku - Nodias Yasaka - Mark V On the grounds of Speed, Spin, Hardness & Durability; Sriver being 10 for all ratings and used as a baseline. I've used Sriver, Samba & Mark V and although their speed is in the same ballpark their feel is different. After trying faster rubbers, I still find the classic rubbers are enough speed and are the most predictable/controllable. Looking to see who else feels that a classic rubber is best for their game and why. Any feedback is appreciated. Thank you, BL
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T05 - Forehand T05fx - Backhand Please post my feedback here: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=71402&PN=1#874345 |
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Tinykin
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Posted: 04/26/2015 at 11:33am |
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Classic rubbers are probably best for most players. But try telling that to someone who sees an advanced player looping with tong sound.
The thing is, we as players only remember the big shots that we play because that's why we play. It's simply more fun to play with modern attacking rubbers (and blades) than the classic stuff. Edited by Tinykin - 04/26/2015 at 11:33am |
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Darker Speed90 Rubber Fh and Bh DHS Hurricane 3, 39/38deg Delusion is an asset |
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pnachtwey
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Posted: 04/26/2015 at 11:54am |
The sound you hear is wasted energy. I know the fraction of wasted energy due to sound is small but it is nothing to be trying to achieve at the expense of kinetic energy for the ball. |
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frogger
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Posted: 04/26/2015 at 12:00pm |
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A developing player or any player wanting more control can't go wrong with Mark V, Nodias, Magic Carbon. All three of those are very good. Magic Carbon isn't available in the U.S.A to my knowledge anymore. There is something special about Mark V and I find myself always returning to it. Magic Carbon isn't that spinney but it has a superb top sheet that lasts a long time. The difference between Mark V max and a Tenergy FX is price, a bit less speed and spin but more accuracy for all shots. Sriver seems like it has seen better days ( still to expensive for it's performance). Mendo is a quality rubber but without speed glue or booster it's slow. Coppa has a fragile top sheet. Vario is Donic's version of Sriver and is also a bit slow. Nodias plays like a pillow and produces very good topspin, perhaps a tic faster than Mark V but isn't as good in the short game. Overall I would pick Mark V as the winner. 
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Blip
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Posted: 04/26/2015 at 12:22pm |
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Thank you for the feedback Frogger. Happy to hear from someone who's tried such a variety.
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Viscaria
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adishorul
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Posted: 04/26/2015 at 1:38pm |
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What about xiom musa ? It is a modern non tensor rubber.
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Tinykin
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Posted: 04/26/2015 at 2:34pm |
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Also don't forget that Chinese rubbers such as Globe 999 and DHS Hurricane are also classic rubbers that have been around since the seventies. It's just that players boost them to keep up with the ESN and Bty type stuff.
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Darker Speed90 Rubber Fh and Bh DHS Hurricane 3, 39/38deg Delusion is an asset |
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Ranchi
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Posted: 04/26/2015 at 3:44pm |
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i used to play with stiga mendo...
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Blip
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Posted: 04/26/2015 at 6:23pm |
As far as Chinese rubbers go, I'm a fan of Globe 999. DHS, not so much. Didn't forget about these guys but the weight of these sheets have kept me from consistently using them. Globe is great.
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Viscaria
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joshuadn11
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Posted: 04/27/2015 at 7:15pm |
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i gotta admit, Mark V is still the classic rubber i go back to when i have to pick between those
(i still remember the feeling when i first tried this rubber..and til this day, it still hasn't change)
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aerial
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Posted: 04/27/2015 at 10:21pm |
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has anyone that has used Mark V also used Mark V HPS Soft?
I bought MVHPS-Soft somewhat randomly and am sticking with my current setup for a while and concentrating on my technique instead of being an EJ. I'm just curious if anyone can give a comparison.
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Blip02
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Posted: 04/27/2015 at 11:50pm |
Unfortunately, last time I used Mark V it was magical for the first few sessions but quickly became dead/dull and lack of grip. I'm willing to give it another shot but so far even years old Sriver has treated me well. Let's not start a Mark V vs. Sriver war though. ;)
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king_pong
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Posted: 04/28/2015 at 11:51am |
I used to used Mark V, and then got a deal on some Mark V HPS Soft. At first I did not like it at all. The new HPS Soft seemed to have a quicker bite, and not the same dwell I was accustomed to from my regular Mark V (tuned). My regular Mark V was quite used and tuned up, so I had developed a feel for it. I was looking for something with the same dwell/control, but with faster speed. HPS Soft had perhaps a bit more speed, but really didn't have the same dwell. I think the top-sheet is the same formula, but that the pip length appears to be a bit shorter). Needless to say, I put the HPS Soft down and didn't use it for a while. More recently I have tuned up the HPS Soft with lamp oil/mineral oil, re-applied it, and I am now playing with it regularly with no issues. I am now quite accustomed to it and like it well enough, though for dwell, I prefer the Max I bought to the 2.0 (bought 1 of each to compare). In general, I think classic rubbers have a break in period that newer rubbers don't have, and that was probably why the HPS Soft felt better with tuning and more play. |
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Blake
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Posted: 04/28/2015 at 12:41pm |
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I have been playing on the same Sriver 1.9 rubbers for almost 3 years and have absolutely loved them Great to learn on and durable as heck if you take care of them. You can probably get something a little better now days for a better price too boot though!
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