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Alwin 
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 Topic: Rubber like speed glued skyline 3?Posted: 05/27/2015 at 4:03am |
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First up, I want to make it clear that I do NOT want to speed glue or boost. Not only is it illegal, but the smell makes me nauseous
 The reason I speed glued was because I had to change my worn out Skyline TG3 for an older, but less worn TG3 for some uni try outs last week. The only glue I could borrow from my friends was this haifu speed glue (smelled real aweful). I put two thin layers on the sponge and one on the blade 1-2 days before the tryouts. When I played, man the first set was the best I think I've ever played. I won 11-5 against a BH long pips player who, only a year or so ago, would beat me 11-0 or 11-1. All my FH loops were going in and I felt like I couldn't miss BH or FH. Ultimately though I lost the match and the match after that the 'can't miss feel' was gone. My FH opening loops weren't as accurate or spiny any more, it played like my old TG3 but with more tack. So, once this current TG3 sheet wears out and improve other aspects of my game like reading and reacting to serves, I'd like to change to a different sheet. Ideally, my next sheet should play like glued skyline 3 in terms of spin and control (don't need any more speed, TG3 is fast enough for me now)  Thanks in advance!
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Posted: 05/27/2015 at 9:43am |
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asifgunz
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Posted: 05/27/2015 at 11:41am |
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Im on skyline tg3 neo atm. Planning on changing out of it myself.
Last night i missed about 39 forehand loops. Last week all 39 of them would have landed . I believe you can perhaps move to tibhar grip S . Which will give you huge amount of control. Less reactive to incoming spin and more spin than any non tacky rubber. |
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Posted: 05/27/2015 at 11:49am |
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I wouldn´t recommend any Grip-S since it has been discountinued on new Thibar 2015 Catalogue so forget about getting a fresh one. If you dont by TermBlazer"> want to tune of speed glueing i would straightly go for Big Dipper.
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asifgunz
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Posted: 05/27/2015 at 12:15pm |
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Too many people have rated bd's spin as not even close to tg3. Plus bd is also faster (livelier). Op would require much time adjusting to this hybrid.
I switch between whale 3 and shark 3 to tg3 neo with no problem. I actually prefer haifus rubber becaus theyre less sensitive. But theyre about 60$ a sheet. |
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Alwin
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Posted: 05/28/2015 at 6:52am |
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@t64t64t64, why do you recommend SpinArt? I've seen some reviews saying it needs to be boosted to play better (again, don't want to boost) and it costs 75 $AUD here... same as tenergy prices
@asifgunz, how come you didn't like TG3 Neo? I've heard that it was made to play with speed glue effect? Do you think the haifu rubbers are worth the extra money? @jonyer1980 thanks for the suggestion but I've looked into RD before and think I agree with asifgunz, it sounded soft and too bouncy Please keep the suggestions coming! Thanks in advance
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Posted: 05/28/2015 at 8:45am |
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I thought the answer was easy- TG3-60. It's TG3 top on a Faster Tinarc 1 sponge. But then I heard you hadn't even tried NEO. You should start with NEO if you're using unglued commercial non-neo TG3. it will be a jump up. I'd recommend starting with 38 degree if you've never tried hardnesses. You can go harder from there.
Haifu rubbers are not worth the extra money, especially after their QC went way downhill. They used to have quality stuff, but now it's not nearly as good as it used to be. That's why I stopped using them altogether.
Switching between this rubber and that rubber is all down to individual. I can switch between H3/TG3 or Haifu or Big Dipper or Vega Pro or Tenergy and have a pretty small adjustment time. Just because one person can't adjust to something doesn't mean another won't be able to. Big dipper is good stuff, really good. I think it needs the right blade, and found it best on a run of the mill 5 ply (Xiom Offensive S). But again, I'd say try TG3 Neo, or TG3-60 Edited by beeray1 - 05/28/2015 at 8:47am |
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Big Dipper comes in different sponges. People who want s harder rubber can try the 40 degrees. People who want a softer rubber can try the 38 degrees. I still think the 38 deg rubber is the best Chinese rubber for Euro-style players who don't want to swing hard on every shot ( I coukdnt use Battle 2 - that was much too Chinese hard sponged for me), but that is not for everyone. People will definitely like the 39 or the 40 better if they are Chinese sponge users.
Battle 2 is also an option. I found it way too slow for my technique but others may not. The spin was good though. I just can't recommend it to a Tenergy user as I could Big Dipper 38 before all the QC issues drove me off it. |
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Posted: 05/28/2015 at 9:59am |
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Thats why i said tibhar grip s. thats when tibhar controls the quality of haifus rubbers. Or donic for traction series, but the quality of that is crap unless theyve fixed it since. Then one of the commentors said grip s is out of production.
Haifus 60$ upgrade rubbers arent bad in quality at all. Its hella spinny for a non tacky rubber. I never speedglued in my life. My dad never let me, cuz I was learning the game 10 years ago. Im 22 now. Finding neo slightly slow for my taste. it became too tacky after cleaning with my friends nittaku clean awah. Maybe I need a faster blade than the hayabusa zxi. |
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Posted: 05/28/2015 at 12:03pm |
My personal issue is "not bad in quality" Is something okay for a 20 dollar rubber, not a 60 dollar rubber. Compared to BW3, there are infinite equal or better performing options at that price range and a good deal lower.
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Posted: 05/28/2015 at 12:15pm |
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Youre correct. For 60ish you can just get tenergy.
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Posted: 05/28/2015 at 11:43pm |
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thanks for all the responses
@beeray1, I'm using 39 degrees non-NEO at the moment (which I got domestically when I was in china a few years ago). Would 38 deg TG3 NEO be noticeably softer or bouncier? Same for TG3-60, is it really bouncy? I miss the table a lottt more when I use rubbers with strong catapult effects like my friends' Tenergies. I've always used hard tacky rubber on my FH (think TG3 and H2 39 deg commercial). @NextLevel, thanks for your comment on hardness, I'll try to look into what hardness would suit me but its a bit subjective so I might just have to try a couple rubbers down the track to find out. I also feel like you recommended me Battle 1 for my BH a while ago? Are Battle I and Battle II different? @asifgunz, I usually go through a few sheets of the same rubber and only change as I improve enough (maybe 1-2 years), so jonyer1980's comment that Grip S is no longer manufactured ruled out Grip S for me. Thanks for your suggestion of BW3, but at double too triple the price of TG3 with only little gains I don't think I'd be up for it right now
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Posted: 05/28/2015 at 11:58pm |
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Battle 2 is tacky, 47 deg if I remember correctly. It leans towards the chinese side of the rubber spectrum.
Battle1 is grippy. Closer to euro jap rubbers. |
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