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    Posted: 06/07/2015 at 4:09am
Hello!

I am looking forward for the new Tibhar rubbers Quantum and Nimbus Delta.
In the official site is posted date 15th or 16th June for starting sale, but some suppliers posted 22-23 June as starting date for their sales of these rubbers.
I have not any patience to see and check the quality of these new rubbers!
From about 4-5 years up to this moment I still haven't find a better than Aurus Soft rubber specially for my game from Tibhar.
Both two rubbers will be offered in two versions - soft and hard.
Here you can post your imaginations after test.
I will post my own for sure when I get them at hand after week or two.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote kolevtt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/26/2015 at 6:04pm
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Quantum sounds cool!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AMonteiro Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/26/2015 at 11:43pm
Quantum = 50°
Quantum S = 45°
Nimbus Delta V = 47,5°
Nimbus Delta S = 42,5°

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Tibhar Quantum is an intriguing new concept.  It is the first rubber to incorporate the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, which, compressed, states that you can never simultaneously know the exact position and the exact speed of an object.  Because everything in the universe behaves like both a particle and a wave at the same time.  (Chad Orzel)

So.  You don't know exactly where the ball is going to be or how fast it is going.  Neither does your opponent.  And the ball can simultaneously behave both like a wave and a particle, as can everything else in the universe.  Damn.  Why wasn't I informed?

It is indeed chaos out there, and Tibhar Quantum is the first table tennis rubber developed to both acknowledge and take advantage of that fact.  Science marches inexorably on, and the universe is stranger than we can imagine.  So is table tennis.

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+1 very funny post berndt_man :D
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lineup32 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/28/2015 at 1:01am
Originally posted by Argothman Argothman wrote:

+1 very funny post berndt_man :D

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Those Thibhar guys are high when developing this rubber.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SmackDAT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/10/2015 at 11:28am
Originally posted by kolevtt kolevtt wrote:

So?
LOL

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hans Regenkurt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/10/2015 at 12:44pm
I am curios to know if it is some real novelty or just the output of the usual annual marketing wave.
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Redeeming the intellectual content of the forum...

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Today morning in a shop  i was able to have a look on the Quantum

The Rubber looks me quite soft, white medium sponge and soft-elastic topsheet

 The Pips are thin, high and with high distance( T64 like)

Could be an intereseting rubber  


Edited by carmelomaf - 07/11/2015 at 5:50am
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Originally posted by kolevtt kolevtt wrote:

So?


I was just joking lolz., no offense.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kolevtt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/15/2015 at 6:59am
I thought someone has tested these rubbers yet...
On the local market they are still NOT available.
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Both Quantum and Nimbus Delta are already available in Germany at tt-store24.com.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kolevtt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/15/2015 at 3:51pm
Thanks Ray, but I asked if someone has tested this rubber yet.
I am curious what happened with this brand Tibhar.
Month after the official releasing of these new products on the market nobody has posted a single word about them here...
I expected to have these rubbers 20 days ago, but it seems someone somewhere hasn't done his job as well in the Tibhar's office.
I have not any other explanation. Bad and low quality skilled management in Tibhar.
Buying unknown rubbers at not so low price only for test and paying additional taxes for international delivery ...is this a good idea?
 I don't think so, definitely!


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If Samsonov or Paul Drinkhall is not using it, don't buy it.Wink


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Originally posted by Tinykin Tinykin wrote:

If Samsonov or Paul Drinkhall is not using it, don't buy it.Wink

Then you will miss out on MX-S and all the other wonders of the Evolution series... not a good idea...
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I am a big fan of Adidas TZU. I have been very happy with my sets of ZJK Super ZLC with Adidas Tenzone Ultra for FH and TZU SF for BH and Killerspin Stillo7 with TZU SF for both sides. Since I happened to know that Adidas is leaving table tennis, my journey to find alternative rubbers is now restarted!  

I ordered Tibhar Quantum S to replace my old TZU SF on my very hard and fast carbon blade Killerspin Stillo7  in mid July when seeing the advertisement of the manufacturer “We put focus on catapul at the precise moment of bat/ball contact….. the composition of the sponge produce fantastic playing sensation and a totally regular ball trajectory…”.

The rubber is quite softer and lighter than TZU SF. The sponge is orange color with large pores similar to Evolution MX-P.  Inverted Pips structures are as picture below.  Top sheet is quite thin and looks shiny. I rubbed the poly ball on the top sheet and felt more grip than TZU SF. Tibhar Quantum S Tibhar Quantum S spongeTibhar Quantum S pips

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I have tried Tibhar Quantum S for two weeks and found that the rubber was quite easy to play with XSF 3 stars 40+ seamless ball. Quantum S is a notch slower and less bouncy than TZU SF, very easy to handle. I was impressed with the touch and coherent feelings of this rubber and the blade. Third ball loops against heavy backspin is very good. Pushing is very good too. Passive block is good but not making trouble to the opponent; active block is more effective with this rubber.

The best performance of this rubber is that I can flip or brush the short and low balls over the table so that the ball just to clear the net then dip down. Very effective and have nice feelings.

In overall, I like this rubber on hard and fast blades as it gave me much feelings and control. This is very good rubber for playing with new poly balls, IMHO (I did try it with old Nittaku Premium and Butterfly 3 stars balls but not like it). I would try Tibhar Quantum with my BTY ZJK Super ZLC or with Off/Off- blade in the next purchase. However, I still very much miss the Adidas TZU and TZU SF when doing counter topspin, explosive strokes from a far distance, and the most importance are moments that I can save or stroke the balls in extreme situation with TZU and TZU SF.

 





Edited by tamtam - 08/26/2015 at 4:35am
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I like Quantum more than Tibhar Evolution Mx-P and EL-P. I have yet tried  Mx-S so cannot compare. 



Edited by tamtam - 08/26/2015 at 4:56am
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JohnnyChop Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/26/2015 at 8:18am
Originally posted by tamtam tamtam wrote:




I like Quantum more than Tibhar Evolution Mx-P and EL-P. I have yet tried  Mx-S so cannot compare. 



Is quantum softer or harder then mxp?
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Originally posted by tamtam tamtam wrote:


I like Quantum more than Tibhar Evolution Mx-P and EL-P. I have yet tried  Mx-S so cannot compare. 


What is the differences and why do you like better than the two evolution rubbers you mentioned?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/26/2015 at 11:57am
Originally posted by tamtam tamtam wrote:

I am a big fan of Adidas TZU. I have been very happy with my sets of ZJK Super ZLC with Adidas Tenzone Ultra for FH and TZU SF for BH and Killerspin Stillo7 with TZU SF for both sides. Since I happened to know that Adidas is leaving table tennis, my journey to find alternative rubbers is now restarted!  

I ordered Tibhar Quantum S to replace my old TZU SF on my very hard and fast carbon blade Killerspin Stillo7  in mid July when seeing the advertisement of the manufacturer “We put focus on catapul at the precise moment of bat/ball contact….. the composition of the sponge produce fantastic playing sensation and a totally regular ball trajectory…”.

The rubber is quite softer and lighter than TZU SF. The sponge is orange color with large pores similar to Evolution MX-P.  Inverted Pips structures are as picture below.  Top sheet is quite thin and looks shiny. I rubbed the poly ball on the top sheet and felt more grip than TZU SF. Tibhar Quantum S Tibhar Quantum S spongeTibhar Quantum S pips



This is an excellent post, very informative.  Great photos.
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@JohnnyChop: Is quantum softer or harder then mxp?
The Quantum S that I used is softer version of Tibhar Quantum. The is about 45o. MXP is about 47- 48. I don't know about the standard Quantum version (silver) but I guess its hardness could be equivalent to MX-P.  

@Vanjr: What is the differences and why do you like better than the two evolution rubbers you mentioned?
IMHO, Evolution MX-P and EL-P are quite sensitive to incoming spin. They are inferior to Quantum S in terms of control,  feelings and touch. Evolution MX-P and EL-P are not very helpful to me when I want to do placement or to change directions of the ball in case the opponents already loaded their spins. Quantum S gives me opportunity to open attacks safely even when receving short services. The best character of this rubber is that I can feel the coherence of the blade and the rubber, even my blade is one of the fastest and hardest carbon blade.  For speed, Quantum S is a bit less than Evolution MX-P, but higher than EL-P. For spin, Quantum S is better than MX-P and EL-P.

If someone ask me whether Quantum can replace my beloved TZU SF, my answer would be NO (at least at this time when I have played with TZU SF for more than a year).     
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@Baal: Many thanks. In fact, your various reviews and other experienced members' have given me a lot of valuable information to find suitable equipments.   
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I posted reviews of the Tibhar Delta V and the Quantum on this forum.
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is anybody can compare Nimbus Delta to original Nimbus?
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So... Esn last gen sponge, sparsely spaced pips, like T64. Can we say that Quantum and Quantum S are direct analogs of Donic Acuda Blue P1 and P2, respectively? Could anyone make a comparison, please?

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