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    Posted: 07/03/2015 at 5:58pm
The Lob is a style of defending where you stand far from the table. As the opponent smashes, you lift the ball up and back to the table. Michael Maze is famous for his consistent lobs and ability to win points from lobbing.



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Lobs are nice to watch, but most of the time it turns into type of exhibition - with players setting each other up for the smash and lob.
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The specialist in this kind of play is Saive. It is a impresive style of play but you can't expect winning with lobs.
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Originally posted by Antuan Antuan wrote:

The specialist in this kind of play is Saive. It is a impresive style of play but you can't expect winning with lobs.


James Therriault of Sacramento is a full time lobber and plays at a 2200 level.
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Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:

Originally posted by Antuan Antuan wrote:

The specialist in this kind of play is Saive. It is a impresive style of play but you can't expect winning with lobs.


James Therriault of Sacramento is a full time lobber and plays at a 2200 level.
A heavyspin classic:

I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:

Originally posted by Antuan Antuan wrote:

The specialist in this kind of play is Saive. It is a impresive style of play but you can't expect winning with lobs.


James Therriault of Sacramento is a full time lobber and plays at a 2200 level.
A heavyspin classic:


Waow, that lobber really lacks depth in his shots. That can only end in a slaughter....
No need to use drop shots or something else. Has this guy ever won a match playing like this ?

Here is another one in Germany:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlNHPA398nw
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Ai-ya!  That was most posidefinitely a heavyspin classic.  There are, however, at least 51 ways to play a lobber.  In addition to dropping the ball short, Mort, you can smother the lob, brother.
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[/QUOTE

Waow, that lobber really lacks depth in his shots. That can only end in a slaughter....
No need to use drop shots or something else. Has this guy ever won a match playing like this ?

Here is another one in Germany:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlNHPA398nw
[/QUOTE]

James lives in Northern California and has a 2214 rating playing against the toughest players in the U.S.  He has played at that level for over 20 years.  He is very quick and reads his opponents very well.  I sat next to a 2300 player at the Nationals a few years ago.  He was in Therriault's round robin and and not familiar with James.  He thought James was just showing off and would not play him that way.  When I told him that James played everyone that way, the guy just laughed and said he would beat him easily.  James won 3-0. 
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Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:


[/QUOTE

Waow, that lobber really lacks depth in his shots. That can only end in a slaughter....
No need to use drop shots or something else. Has this guy ever won a match playing like this ?

Here is another one in Germany:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlNHPA398nw


James lives in Northern California and has a 2214 rating playing against the toughest players in the U.S.  He has played at that level for over 20 years.  He is very quick and reads his opponents very well.  I sat next to a 2300 player at the Nationals a few years ago.  He was in Therriault's round robin and and not familiar with James.  He thought James was just showing off and would not play him that way.  When I told him that James played everyone that way, the guy just laughed and said he would beat him easily.  James won 3-0. 
[/QUOTE] James and I are playing over 40 doubles and 4200 doubles at the Open this year.
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I learned how to play when james was a teen in sacramento.."table tennis world" owned by coach jeff mason, who also taught myself how to play when i was 21 years old. james playes like that because of jeff, who also specialized in this style and won a class at the u.s. open in the 70's...he coaches the style of stellan bengtsson whom he learned from.
 I practiced with james from 1981-1985 also, a kid named DAVID CHUN that was a hi-level player although, david was a left handed looper.
 I was able to beat james at the end of my term and came very close to taking over david as well. then, i quit....started playing again in aug.2011 as a old man. I could not beat james right now, but im pretty shure i might get his attention...give me 2 more years to train and that might change as well..the "beach balls" are harder to hit past people, they just stop in the air compared to the 38mm balls, it kills my old arm...
 I watched james make good players look like they dont know how to play, most of the "loopers" have a hard time hitting high balls untill there playing level gets higher and smarter aka...drop shots.
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Heavyspin made that look much easier than it actually was
I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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Originally posted by Vince64 Vince64 wrote:

Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:


[/QUOTE

Waow, that lobber really lacks depth in his shots. That can only end in a slaughter....
No need to use drop shots or something else. Has this guy ever won a match playing like this ?

Here is another one in Germany:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlNHPA398nw


James lives in Northern California and has a 2214 rating playing against the toughest players in the U.S.  He has played at that level for over 20 years.  He is very quick and reads his opponents very well.  I sat next to a 2300 player at the Nationals a few years ago.  He was in Therriault's round robin and and not familiar with James.  He thought James was just showing off and would not play him that way.  When I told him that James played everyone that way, the guy just laughed and said he would beat him easily.  James won 3-0. 
James and I are playing over 40 doubles and 4200 doubles at the Open this year.[/QUOTE]

I didn't want to offend someone and of course, I have only seen that short video..
Of course, if the opponent is only a looper and is not able to hit or smash (for instance straight to the body) and on the right moment make a drop shot, ....he can have some problem.
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Xu Xin has shown that it is possible to win games using the tactic of " lob " and "counter - atack " is part of the game , if it serves to regain control of the match can be used. (thinking about the psychological effects on the opponent)

watch: 12:47 Xu Xin vs Wang Liqin (Xu Xin win the match),etc.

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