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TTNPP has Kailin Oil now |
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panany
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but this shop is shit same always ... i buy 5 days ago and they dont send ...
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42andbackpains
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ttnpp is good and bad. There inventory is quite vast and you finde items other online retailers dont carry. You do have to be careful of authenticity when it comes to DHS rubbers and so called claimed National rubbers. Another bad is they dont update there inventory levels all the time. I ordered some Nittaku premium 40+ poly balls and Kailin Booster last week on Friday 7/10 and the shipment reached USPS sorting station in NYC Tuesday 7/14. Now it will take another couple more days to clear customs before it reaches my hands. So i got lucky on this order. As recommended by Nextel for ttnpp, you have to live with the good and bad of ttnpp. Cant wait for the Kailin booster oil and nittaku premium balls. Like a kid waiting for Christmas Day.
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Mind is willing, but the back goes out too often :P
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Machine_Head
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42,which rubber are you going to use your Kailin on?
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42andbackpains
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I presently use 2 to 3 thin layer of Haifu Seamoon on my fh H3 Neo and 1 layer on my bh shortpips. I will use the Kailin oil probably the same way.
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Mind is willing, but the back goes out too often :P
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Machine_Head
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Looking forward to your feedback. :)
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panany
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he send me today :)
i want try quick... i have blade from fang bo i just wait kailin oil for try with my h3 50 :)
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42andbackpains
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Break out the champagne because my order came in today!
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Mind is willing, but the back goes out too often :P
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Argothman
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Very nice! Be sure to make a good report for the rest of us to enjoy vicariously! A comparison with seamoon would be awesome.
Edited by Argothman - 07/17/2015 at 5:45pm |
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nittakuball
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mine finally arrived in 10 days.
How to use it? |
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42andbackpains
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Here is what most people recommend.
1st layer-Water Based Glue - Let the glue dry before applying booster. Apply 2-3 layers of Booster Oil(2-3 for H3 rubbers, tensors only need 1 layer)- Please always let each layer of booster oil dry before applying the next layer of booster oil. Depending on brand and how much booster you apply, the drying time can be a couple of hours to 1 full day before each layer of booster oil dries. I always recommend to apply booster oil as thin as possible. Over Boosting can destroy your very expensive rubber. Last layer-Apply Water Based Glue and attach to your blade. (Of course you need to apply glue to your blade too...lol) Trying and experimenting is always fun...most of the time. Edited by 42andbackpains - 08/19/2015 at 2:08pm |
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MLfan
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Actually, if you use glue first on your rubber, there's no need to use glue again on your rubber
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42andbackpains
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I personnally prefer the Kailin booster over Seamoon. Kailin is thinner and easier to apply than Seamoon. Seamoon is stronger and will expand the sponge more than Kailin. Kailin is not weak, just a little different. Kailin does expand/soften your rubbers and retains some of the sponge original attributes while still giving a kick/catapult to your rubbers. H3 is originally a very hard sponged rubber and you still want to retain some of the hardness, this is my preference. It also dries quicker and you can be up and running within a day or two if you dont want to let the rubbers fully uncurl. Your mileage may vary depending on layers of booster you apply. I prefer applying about 3 very thin layers to my H3 neo 2.15. My 2 cents added.
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nittakuball
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thanks a lot for the information.
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42andbackpains
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Welcome to the dark side....lol
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schen
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Apply it directly to the sponge. Minimize the risk of making the sponge too thick and therefore illegal if checked.
I would always remove the previous glue layer before regluing/reboosting. Otherwise the rubber will not be flat.
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42andbackpains
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Great advice...i have learned many things from Schen...Thank You almighty booster god...
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notfound123
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Guys,
Anyone can compare Kailin vs Revolution Xtreme Booster? Or Xtreme vs FTL? Here is the link: https://www.megaspin.net/store/default.asp?pid=xtreme-booster I tried it on some classic rubbers and to be honest with you I was not that impressed...
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sandiway
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Interesting. When I was in China, a coach tried to save my dying Tenergy 05 by using Dianchi. (And he was a true expert.) But I hated its effect. To me, Dianchi simply doesn't work on (and IMHO ruins) Tenergy 05. If Kailin Oil works on old Tenergy 05 and restores it to original performance, it'd help extend life and save people money.
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HappySpinner
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Hi schen, are you talking about neo or non-neo commercial tg2? |
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MLfan
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schen
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Yes, I am talking about NEO, although non-NEO can be boosted with great effect too!
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HappySpinner
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Thanks much MLfan and Schen for answering!
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sandiway
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Just a user report.
I ordered the Kailin booster from TTNPP 8/23. It shipped on 8/24. It was delivered on 8/31. Very timely. I play booster free but I figured it was a worth a try to try to resurrect a worn and dying Tenergy 05 in the interests of saving money. And if it worked, it's worth going to boosting to give the rubber second legs. (I mentioned in an earlier post a pro in China, who is an expert booster, used Dianchi to try to save me another time I had a dying Tenergy 05. But I hated the results.) As an experiment, I tested Kailin on both sides of the paddle. Forehand side: worn Tenergy 05. Backhand side: half worn Tenergy 05 FX. ("Worn" here means that the topsheet is worn to the degree that all pips underneath are large and prominently showing.) Methodology: applied a very thin layer of Kailin to both sheets. I did not remove the pre-existing WB glue (Nittaku Finezip is what I use). Waited 12 hours. It barely changed from flat. Applied a 2nd thin layer of Kailin to both sides in the morning before I left for work. When I got back - 12 hours later - both sheets were curled. Since a practice partner had already arrived, I applied glue to the blade only and stuck the two sheets on. (They were sticky anyway.) Obviously I should have waited another 12 hours at least for them to flatten out but I was pressed for time. A bit surprised, but they stuck fine (no curl-up). Results surprised me. 1. My wrist could seriously feel the weight difference. 2. On the forehand, it sucked. It didn't play nice at all. It was not progressive. On counter looping rallies, it either (over)grabbed the ball or didn't grab it well at all. It also had a fast, slightly dead feel on pushes. Nothing like the absolute reliability of a brand-new sheet of T05. 3. After drilling with the forehand, I expected worse on the backhand. BUT on the backhand, it was wonderful. This was a surprise because FX sponge is even softer. One possible explanation is that: (1) the backhand T05FX topsheet is still not worn, and (2) I use the wrist a lot on the backhand with a much smaller forearm-oriented stroke (than compared to the forehand). I had substantially improved control on the backhand. Conclusion: My practice partner (who is a permanent booster) indicated that I should toss the T05 forehand sheet. And put on a brand new sheet because it is really dead. But keep the boosted T05FX on the backhand. And he indicated, it should play its best in about a week. Another observation from the practice partner was that my Rosewood V is a bit too soft to be compatible with boosting. In his experience, it works better in conjunction with a slightly harder blade like an Ebenholz. Edited by sandiway - 09/02/2015 at 2:14pm |
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qualizon
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hm... that's the first time I hear rosewood is too soft...
i would think because the rosewood is considered as a hard wood, pairing with a soften tenergy will either make you feel hitting thru the sponge to the wood directly if you hit it hard, or if you hit it light, you'll feel it's too mushy.
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42andbackpains
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I think most Chinese Boosters mainly soften and expand the sponge on the applied rubber. Once the sponge expands, therefore tensing the rubbers topsheet as well. Once a topsheet is dead, it is dead. No matter how much boosting you do, you cannot bring back the life of a topsheet. There is no miracle booster for worn out topsheets...at least i have not found it yet. In my short experience with boosters, tensing the topsheet shortens the life of the rubber. Example: My DHS H3 Neo after boosting has worn off and has shrunk back to normal size...Then it has become like my own special version of Anti. So boosting old worn out rubbers wont make it play better. Boosting new or semi worn sheets should be fine. Also new Euro or Japanese tensor rubbers are heavily tuned/boosted from the factory and does not need boosting until some of the in factory tuning has worn off. I think most most Boosters are meant for users who want to soften there Chinese branded hard sponged rubbers or players looking to soften there existing sponges for specific reasons(ie pips/pimple players)
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sandiway
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According to the practice partner, his Ebenholz faster than his Emerald VPS faster than his Infinity VPS faster than my Rosewood V. I didn't feel the T05 bottoming out. It felt a bit dead but it was fast. Maybe because the topsheet got stretched when the sponge got stretched, and thus it rebounded faster. Then because the topsheet is worn, the consistency goes to hell. I'm not sure what's exactly going to happen on a loop and I can't predict the effect well. Perhaps not surprising at all. But as I said, the surprising thing is that the backhand plays really well even with FX sponge.
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censored by the poster igorponger
Edited by igorponger - 11/18/2017 at 4:20am |
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notfound123
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How's this even remotely relevant to TT?? Go post the same nonsense on one of Russian-speaking boards.. you would get banned for life Edited by notfound123 - 06/01/2017 at 6:27am |
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Hans Regenkurt
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