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FreeAgent
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Posted: 08/04/2015 at 12:52pm |
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I'm looking to buy a new blade but am pretty uninformed when it comes to equipment.
I currently use a Timo Boll Spirit with Tenergy 80FX on FH and 80 on BH, which my coach says is too fast for me. I tried out an old Korbel but that was too slow. Can anyone recommend a wood blade in between those two? I've heard the Primorac Off- is good. And I've been looking at the Timo Boll Off-. Anyone have experience with that one? Any feedback would be appreciated. |
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zeio
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Primorac is even slower than Korbel. Any 5-ply all-wood would feel slow unless the player puts in the effort. Try 7-ply models such as the Clipper.
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Viscaria FL - 91g
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NextLevel
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What is your playing level? Who considers the Korbel too slow, you or your coach? What you should be really looking for is ball feel. IF you want a 7 ply blade, I would recommend some looping blades, but my guess is that you might consider them too slow as well, which defeats the purpose of what your coach is trying to do (get you to play with feeling).
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
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Egghead
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Did you consider new rubbers? If I were you, I would have changed the rubbers instead
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Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX
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FreeAgent
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NextLevel,
My playing level is 1700-1800. I decided the blade was too slow. I only get coaching every now and then so he did not see me hit with it. This is not an ego thing, I have wanted a slower blade as well. I just have no idea what to get. The difference in feel was so drastic, my training partner even noted my serves were barely getting over the net. I figured I could find something closer to the Spirit. Is it normal when one changes blades to have to adapt and adjust that much to the new one? Edited by FreeAgent - 08/04/2015 at 3:06pm |
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FreeAgent
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Egghead,
I've though about that as well. Do you have any suggestions? Edited by FreeAgent - 08/04/2015 at 3:07pm |
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jt99sf
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Try IF AL or Keyshot Light.
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Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)
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NextLevel
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Depending on the reason, yes. That said, no one wants you to get injured. But the point of slower is to force you to appreciate different but important things about the game and to rebuild aspects of your technique that you have worked around incorrectly by using a faster blade. Since your coach has a strong opinion on this, I would actually ask him to recommend the blade he wants you to use ans for you to use it for a month to learn it before switching or disagreeing.The thing with changing equipment is that a full appreciation takes time. You are making the change for tomorrow. You are making the change for a period of time to see something. You can always go back if the change doesn't work out. But when using a slower blade, the feel of all your strokes will be wrong initially. But the same thing happens to me when I use a faster blade. Everything goes long usually and I have to adapt. I usually make the final decision after a couple of weeks in matches and practice. I would say start with a Stratus Power Wood. If you want to borrow one, I can lend you one for free no strings attached. I loved the blade but I preferred something else. You are going to struggle if you are looking for a blade with Carbon kick. I would have thought that being barely able to get serves over the net would be an advantage for pushing and serving short. Those might be what your coach is looking for. Those blades tend to be looping blades and are livelier when playing spin strokes vs. flat strokes. Just saying. Edited by NextLevel - 08/04/2015 at 3:24pm |
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
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slevin
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A Michael Maze ALC almost bisects the TBS & Korbel. Try it. Limba-Limba-Ayous-Limba-Limba construction (like Korbel) but with ALC (just like TBS) between the 2 Limba layers. The end result is that it has much greater dwell in opening loops / short game but enough power (due to it being slightly more flexy than TBS) in mid-distance. You might have to ditch the 80FX and get something a touch harder with it though (like a Xiom Omega V Europe).
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SolidBody
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Try TIBHAR Stratus Power Wood a tad faster than Korbel, very good feeling and control. You can buy it for less than $40.
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Fast Feet , Soft Hand
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FreeAgent
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Depending on the reason, yes. That said, no one wants you to get injured. But the point of slower is to force you to appreciate different but important things about the game and to rebuild aspects of your technique that you have worked around incorrectly by using a faster blade. Since your coach has a strong opinion on this, I would actually ask him to recommend the blade he wants you to use ans for you to use it for a month to learn it before switching or disagreeing.The thing with changing equipment is that a full appreciation takes time. You are making the change for tomorrow. You are making the change for a period of time to see something. You can always go back if the change doesn't work out. But when using a slower blade, the feel of all your strokes will be wrong initially. But the same thing happens to me when I use a faster blade. Everything goes long usually and I have to adapt. I usually make the final decision after a couple of weeks in matches and practice. I would say start with a Stratus Power Wood. If you want to borrow one, I can lend you one for free no strings attached. I loved the blade but I preferred something else. You are going to struggle if you are looking for a blade with Carbon kick. I would have thought that being barely able to get serves over the net would be an advantage for pushing and serving short. Those might be what your coach is looking for. Those blades tend to be looping blades and are livelier when playing spin strokes vs. flat strokes. Just saying. [/QUOTE] Thanks for your insight. My coach was given the Korbel and was biased in that he wanted to sell it. I will definitely take you up on the offer to test out the Stratus. I will see if I can figure out how to send a PM. |
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cole_ely
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to me korbel is pretty fast for a 5ply. almost as fast as a bt555.
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Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b
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BH-Man
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I have used the TBS for a few years and currently use Tibhar Kim Jung Hoon. That blade is right around the specs you mentioned you are looking for.
The W1 Cole sells is close to your specs, as well as a few others he has. Each company makes a blade or two around that range, there has got to be at least 3 dozen candidates or more. I would say take up the offer to tryout the blade offered for free. There is nothing like trying out stuff firsthand.
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frogger
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I have TBS/T80fx/Challenger am below 1800 rating and find this setup not to fast. I don't understand your coaches point of view. Perhaps it's a style element he is referring to. TBS can be tuned up or down with rubber/thickness and has decent control aspects. |
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FreeAgent
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I'm having trouble closing the racket and following through on the forehand loop. I think NextLevel is right in that I need to learn the intricacies of proper technique and learn to feel the ball better and then I can move back to a faster paddle. I don't think the setup is necessarily too fast, its just for me right now it's stunting my progress. |
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If you were getting constant coaching, working on your game 4-5 days a week and were a fairly young player, I would be less concerned about using a fast blade. But given that your coaching is spotty I think you (well, most player that is and presumably you too) will benefit from erring toward the slower side of things and working on technique and control. |
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Stavros
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Stay to Boll Spirit. It's the most popular blade!
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InfinityVPS - D80 - D05
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Egghead
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some esn rubbers in 425 ~ 475 (EL-P, Rakza X, M2, Rhyzm ...) or T64 (fx ??)
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Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX
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