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AndySmith 
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 Topic: Yasaka Rising DragonPosted: 08/13/2015 at 7:00am |
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So, I got a sheet of this as part of a tt-japan order. The price is reasonable-ish from there (but it's very expensive at TT11). Arrived this morning.
It's made in China, has a glossy, semi-tacky topsheet (looks just like Big Dipper) on a black porous sponge. No tuning or pre-glue layer visible, no particular smell of anything. Pics (not great quality unfortunately):    Edited by AndySmith - 08/17/2015 at 5:36am |
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Figueiredo81
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Posted: 08/13/2015 at 7:07am |
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I'd like to see please. Thank you.
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unstopabl3
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Posted: 08/13/2015 at 7:56am |
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Will love to read a review please :P
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vanjr
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Posted: 08/13/2015 at 8:58am |
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Interest in a review? Always!
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vic#74
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Posted: 08/13/2015 at 12:58pm |
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Andy, you're the men
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AndySmith
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Posted: 08/17/2015 at 5:38am |
Yes, I am ALL the men.  Pics added. I have a tournament this weekend so I won't be mixing my equipment around until that's out of the way. Will report back when I've had chance to give it a blast.
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JimT
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Posted: 08/17/2015 at 3:40pm |
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On one hand it seems like Palio-Yasaka hybrid (similar to Zap rubbers). OTOH, rather pricey for China-made ribber...
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AndySmith
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Posted: 08/18/2015 at 11:32am |
It's very expensive for Chinese. Heavy and hard too. I'm probably not going to like it.
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Posted: 08/18/2015 at 11:49am |
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sponge looks very much like friendship.
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Tuly007
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Posted: 10/09/2015 at 9:04pm |
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Any other updates on this dragon rubber????
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still testing
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Boss1703
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Posted: 10/12/2015 at 11:39am |
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it said on yasaka facebook that 2 swedish young players already use it (so it is not only for typical chinese players)
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Posted: 10/12/2015 at 9:42pm |
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Got me one, with 2 Tibhar 7ply furious blades., The dragon was indeed sticky,could lift the ball with it, but after a few sweaty wipes the stickiness went and it's gone, no more ball lifting now, More robot and play time tomorrow...
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Posted: 10/12/2015 at 10:46pm |
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I see that Andy added some additional thoughts over at ttdaily
This is the first I've heard of this rubber. $43 at TT11.... say what?!!! even $30 at tt-japan. uh, yeah... no
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IanMcg
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Posted: 10/13/2015 at 1:03am |
From TT-Japan for around that price, you could buy Rhyzm, a rubber from the Vega/Boost family, or X-Tend HS.
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thethinker
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Posted: 10/13/2015 at 1:23am |
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I like Rising Dragon. After breaking it in it's simi-sticky only, not traditional Chinese. More spin than T05, and slower but not by much. Not overly heavy either. Nice sound on the blade that was testing on. Like it but $40 is still too much. $30 at tt-japan is OKish.
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AndySmith
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Posted: 10/13/2015 at 5:25am |
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I haven't updated this thread. Mainly because a clubmate was looking for a tacky rubber and I let him try Rising Dragon. He loved it, bought it off me, and that was that. So I ended up with very little time to try it out overall - just a few hours.
I stole his bat last night and had a quick bash once more to refresh my memory. The tack has almost completely gone - it's just barely there now. It felt super nice actually - the topsheet is good, but the sponge performed very well. If I closed my eyes, I could believe that it was a Jap sponge. Although it's hard, it still has a useful elastic feel and reminds me most of a hard variant of Stiga's Airoc sponge. Certainly a more modern feel to a typical hard chinese rubber, nicer for a regular tensor user like me, and a step up from the harder versions of Big Dipper (for example). I'm not saying that RD is actually using a Jap sponge though. No way to be 100% sure. I'll probably order another sheet on my next tt-japan spree.
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the_theologian
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Posted: 10/13/2015 at 8:43am |
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Andy, can it possibly be good enough to justify $30 a sheet? I just ordered a few sheets of Rasant variants at $30 a sheet, including shipping! Rising Dragon would of course be $30 plus shipping at tt-japan. I'm struggling to believe it's worth it.
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AndySmith
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Posted: 10/13/2015 at 9:55am |
I'm not sure. It's definitely not worth €45-50, which is the range most euro stores are charging. $30? Maybe. Shipping isn't cheap at tt-japan though, so I think that pushes it into maybe- territory.
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thethinker
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Posted: 10/14/2015 at 4:33am |
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I agree with AndySmith about the sponge, the best part of the rubber. It's hard but still kicks is how I would describe it. Too bad I didn't ask what the hardness of the sponge I used.
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Posted: 10/21/2015 at 11:29am |
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Can you review this rubber? Can you compare with H3?
thank you. I will use this rubber with Viscaria instead of 729 friendship Battle 2 or DHS H3 pro orange
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Posted: 10/21/2015 at 3:50pm |
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I first noticed this rubber a day or two ago over at TTDB.com. It is currently their "Best Overall" rubber (not that that is saying much with only 6 reviews, but it did catch my attention, leading in "Most Spin", "Most Gears", and "Best Overall").
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thethinker
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Posted: 10/21/2015 at 4:49pm |
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It's to me as good as H3 provincial or better.
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Posted: 10/22/2015 at 8:26am |
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without reasonable reviews is quit difficult to believe it
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Posted: 11/06/2015 at 7:38am |
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I got the rubber and i'm going to test it today evening
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Posted: 11/06/2015 at 11:23am |
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some pictures
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Posted: 11/06/2015 at 11:58am |
Hi, thanks for the pics, would love for you to compare Yasaka Rising Dragon with rubbers like ELP, Rakza 7 and Rakza X. Thanks. |
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Posted: 12/08/2015 at 8:09pm |
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I tried a sheet last night and I was not impressed. The sponge was pretty dead and lacked power while the topsheet was not very tacky at all. I normally play T80 and would have expected that my short game would instantly have a little boost from the tack but it did not whatsoever.
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Posted: 12/08/2015 at 11:01pm |
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is it that tough to get the Dragon to Rise? :)
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Posted: 12/09/2015 at 5:49am |
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Mark v on sale for 20 tt11.
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Posted: 12/09/2015 at 1:18pm |
Hahahahaha may be the dragon has been smoking too much
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