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    Posted: 08/25/2015 at 12:59am
I have a premade racket alrwady but it is made for SH and would like to get a custom racket. I want a CP blade that is light and fast. I like to put topspin on my hits and play really agressively and loop a lot. I play about close to medium distance from the table. I am relativly new to table tennis(about a year playing seriously) so I dont really know about all the option out there. The blade I was thinking about was the Chinese AL CS with FH - Andro Rasant Grip and BH - Donic Acuda S1 Turbo. That was a bit above my budget which is about $160 so anything above that I cant really get. Is this a good setup?
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How light? Premades tend to be super dinky, and I don't consider them a good reference point for true equipment.
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IMO I think you'd be wasting your money going from a premade to a $160 setup where you even admit that's above your budget. 

I remember back in my college days when I went from a premade to a custom bat with Mark V (this was before the factory tuned days) and all I can remember is a million errors hitting the ball long. I think you'd be in-store for a lot of that. Furthermore, if you're new, I'd argue that you probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a $160 set vs a $75 one... That's not a knock on you. It's just the reality we all go through when first starting out. 

You can get a real nice quality blade for probably $60 or less and rubbers that would suit you well for $30 or less.

Penhold, wants to loop. Okay. So probably 5 ply flexy blade.

Examples:
Galazy W6. I own one. Nice blade. I perfer 7 play myself. (big fan of the Clipper & PG7) But good looping blade at solid price. $34
http://www.colestt.com/wood-blades.php

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I like Chinese tacky. So I like Globe 999 or several DHS rubbers myself. I'm young still and have never had a problem with not enough power so I don't go for the factory tuned stuff (have tried them. meh). But that's just me. Looks like you're looking for more euro rubbers so I'll let others chime in there.

I would think you could find something that could fit what you're looking for on Zeropong or ColesTT.


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Try my setup. Very dirt cheap. Bought it for ~$53-$55 only. Suits close to mid table style of play (for me at least) and it could block fairly well. And it's light. Then if you felt comfortable already then switch to a different blade. Probably a YEO since it's the most recommended by everybody. :)
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Originally posted by suds79 suds79 wrote:

IMO I think you'd be wasting your money going from a premade to a $160 setup where you even admit that's above your budget. 

I remember back in my college days when I went from a premade to a custom bat with Mark V (this was before the factory tuned days) and all I can remember is a million errors hitting the ball long. I think you'd be in-store for a lot of that. Furthermore, if you're new, I'd argue that you probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a $160 set vs a $75 one... That's not a knock on you. It's just the reality we all go through when first starting out. 

You can get a real nice quality blade for probably $60 or less and rubbers that would suit you well for $30 or less.

Penhold, wants to loop. Okay. So probably 5 ply flexy blade.

Examples:
Galazy W6. I own one. Nice blade. I perfer 7 play myself. (big fan of the Clipper & PG7) But good looping blade at solid price. $34
http://www.colestt.com/wood-blades.php

Rubbers:
I like Chinese tacky. So I like Globe 999 or several DHS rubbers myself. I'm young still and have never had a problem with not enough power so I don't go for the factory tuned stuff (have tried them. meh). But that's just me. Looks like you're looking for more euro rubbers so I'll let others chime in there.

I would think you could find something that could fit what you're looking for on Zeropong or ColesTT.


Thanks for that response. I didn't really know what was a cheap price for a racket so thanks for clearing that up and I'll give a look on those that you mentioned but I was kinda looking for euro rubbers but wouldn't turn off from chinese ones completely. Oh I also play RPB and play pretty defensively there with the occasional loop or flick but I mostly want to block and push there.

Edited by Zachs_50 - 08/25/2015 at 12:13pm
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What rubber would you recommend for my backhand?
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I've found Tenergy 25-FX excellent for RPB. It gives me the tightest arc of any rubber I've tried, which makes sense according to what Butterfly says about it. Balls get up and down fast, with a very hard dive down to the table. The best I've tried for my close to the table, off-the-bounce RPBs, and opening loops of pushes with backspin. Even when I don't have time for a good RPB stroke, I've had hard driven balls rebound off my racket and go back for clean winners by themselves. For me, T25-FX has been better than other rubbers known to excel for RPB, such as Rakza 7 Soft and T05-FX.
So many rubbers, so little time.
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Originally posted by interact215 interact215 wrote:

I've found Tenergy 25-FX excellent for RPB. It gives me the tightest arc of any rubber I've tried, which makes sense according to what Butterfly says about it. Balls get up and down fast, with a very hard dive down to the table. The best I've tried for my close to the table, off-the-bounce RPBs, and opening loops of pushes with backspin. Even when I don't have time for a good RPB stroke, I've had hard driven balls rebound off my racket and go back for clean winners by themselves. For me, T25-FX has been better than other rubbers known to excel for RPB, such as Rakza 7 Soft and T05-FX.

Thanks for the response but thats too expensive. I dont focus on my bh too much so wanted something a bit cheaper.
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If it's not out of your price range, I think Sriver EL is very, very good for RPB.

My only complaint was that it felt a bit mushy with my Yasaka Extra.
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I focus more on RPB for offensive play so my requirement may not suit you but basically I would pick something faster or at least on par with FH for the BH side. That is pretty much what the Chinese are doing. I found it hard to use anything slower/less bouncy for RPB as the stroke is relatively compact there. So the choice of RPB depends a lot on your FH rubber. I would say it is either the same as FH but thinner or go one step softer in the same series.
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I like Chinese tacky for the forehand (and in black) but for RPB, i favor a more grippy rubber. Right or wrong, when i'm practicing the over the table loop on service return, I don't want a rubber super reactive to spin. I feel I get an ever so slight larger margin for error. So that's my logic there. I would go something of that sort.

The CNT team tends to favor more grippy & faster rubbers on their backhand so there must be some reason for that.

Right now I'm playing with Dawei 2008XP and I like it. It's got okay speed IMO also so I like it for the backhand.




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