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By that point of view, probably if you play with old Srivers and get used to them you would also kept your raking. 
Everybody knows that the blade/rubbers won't do miracles, but some will help a lot to one kind of players and other will be better for other players.
That is why I'm saying that if he tries different blades he would choose one he likes better, maybe just in his mind, but that is also a part of the game.
When he chooses one certain blade composition, then he just needs to try from different brands to see which fits him better
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In my case, I began by choosing the out layer between koto, limba and hinoki (never tried others like rosewood or walnut), then the composition (changed my preferences for the plastic ball) and then I ask OSP to make me a customized blade (which I love). It could have worked badly, but not in my case

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CraneStyle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/12/2015 at 11:18am
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by assam assam wrote:

If blades don't do anything special to your game why did you try so many and keep changing them?
Of corse you can find blades very different, in terms of spin generation, control, speed, hardness, or how they behave at each players hand


Because I enjoy buying and playing with blades and I like being able to speak from first hand experience about them. I have not improved my rating whenever I changed a blade. If I did, the blade did something special.


Great EJ confession...

It's 2015... Who said "no more EJ'ing in 2015"...

Answer: Most of us...
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Originally posted by CraneStyle CraneStyle wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by assam assam wrote:

If blades don't do anything special to your game why did you try so many and keep changing them?
Of corse you can find blades very different, in terms of spin generation, control, speed, hardness, or how they behave at each players hand


Because I enjoy buying and playing with blades and I like being able to speak from first hand experience about them. I have not improved my rating whenever I changed a blade. If I did, the blade did something special.


Great EJ confession...

It's 2015... Who said "no more EJ'ing in 2015"...

Answer: Most of us...


Maybe it should read "the rest of 2015". I am set on my current setup for the rest of 2015. I have used it for month and a half now and since Tenergy 05 prices have gone up and I have 4 spare sheets, it is going to be pretty hard to change to the alternative for a year.
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Originally posted by assam assam wrote:

By that point of view, probably if you play with old Srivers and get used to them you would also kept your raking. 
Everybody knows that the blade/rubbers won't do miracles, but some will help a lot to one kind of players and other will be better for other players.
That is why I'm saying that if he tries different blades he would choose one he likes better, maybe just in his mind, but that is also a part of the game.
When he chooses one certain blade composition, then he just needs to try from different brands to see which fits him better


Which is exactly what I said but you just didn't like how I said it.
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Perhaps I didn't understand it that way Tongue
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Beginners, by nature, tend to choose blades that are too fast for them.

There are many short term justifications, including shorter strokes and ability to hit winners when out of position.

Allowing beginners to try everyone's equipment and pick what they like usually isn't a good idea.
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Yah, but "big d" doesn't seems to be a begginer...
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I think under the guidance of an informed player, it is actually a good idea. Being attracted to the wrong things when inexperienced is not unique to table tennis. It's all tied to misconceptions about what it takes to do well and thinking more of something is always better.
I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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Originally posted by assam assam wrote:

Yah, but "big d" doesn't seems to be a begginer...


I appreciate that assam
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by CraneStyle CraneStyle wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by assam assam wrote:

If blades don't do anything special to your game why did you try so many and keep changing them?
Of corse you can find blades very different, in terms of spin generation, control, speed, hardness, or how they behave at each players hand


Because I enjoy buying and playing with blades and I like being able to speak from first hand experience about them. I have not improved my rating whenever I changed a blade. If I did, the blade did something special.


Great EJ confession...

It's 2015... Who said "no more EJ'ing in 2015"...

Answer: Most of us...


Maybe it should read "the rest of 2015". I am set on my current setup for the rest of 2015. I have used it for month and a half now and since Tenergy 05 prices have gone up and I have 4 spare sheets, it is going to be pretty hard to change to the alternative for a year.


... Famous last words... Just some humour that I thought a lot of us could relate to...

That reminds me. I must update my signature to represent what I am using now...

On topic, there's nothing wrong with knowing the range of blade speeds that are available...

I have tried "a few" blades including some club mates blades that felt like toys to me...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote cole_ely Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/12/2015 at 1:33pm
Originally posted by assam assam wrote:

Yah, but "big d" doesn't seems to be a begginer...

You snuck in a post between mine and the post I was replying to.
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had a great session of ping pong with nextLevel today, afterwhich i have decided to keep using my old timo boll spirit t05 and t64. the setup is a little fast but i think i will be able to adjust to how it plays.
 i also wanted to thank everyone for sharing views and opinions.    
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big d - Nice one...

Don't be surprised that your experience with the TB ZLF has enhanced your appreciation for the TB Spirit...

It's a great setup and you've got a good keen training buddy with NextLevel to keep you on point...

Enjoy! ...
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5 ply allwood are the best looping blades in terms of feel and feedback. If feeling and good high throw is what you ssek, you can consider many 5 ply blades. Limba is the most common outer ply for loopers, you can consider many blades, the most common composition is limba-limba-ayou-limba-limba and blades of this composition are available in every budget and certainly manufactured by most brands : from the cheap (but very good ones) like Joola K5 or Donic Waldner senso to the expensive ones like a made in Japan Butterfly Korbel or the Nittaku Acoustic. 

You can't go wrong with those blades if you want a good looping blade, this composition is here for decades and has please all kind of loopers. 

Of course many other 5 ply blades are also the "looper's dream", but unless you are more specific, it will be hard to guide you to a more specific 5 ply allwood blade. 

 
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TSP Gaia was the best looping blade I've played.
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Infinity VPS really made me smile when I changed from Kido 7p. HUGE sweetspot, great feeling, solid pace.
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I think Timo Boll Alc it is the best blade for topspin from both sides...with T05 fh/bh you can blow your opponent but you must have some skills.
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And it had to be FL handle right?

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IMHO
vote for Stiga Ebenholz V
great dwell time but powerful
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is emerald vps good for looping?

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Have you tried a Clipper? A great do-it-all blade, with a small price, and certainly a blade loopers love.
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I wouldn't call emerald vps v or Clipper as looping blades - I'd reserve that moniker for a 5-ply limba-limba-ayous-limba-limba construction.

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The original Nexy Calix. Huge dwell, flexy, dual impact at its best.
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