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    Posted: 11/02/2015 at 12:39pm
It turns out that if you just search the ITTF Laws of Table Tennis, there are quite a few important things you just won't find there, especially about  rubbers, balls, blades, and other arcane stuff that are of interest to more advanced players, and fans of the top events.  ITTF does not always make it easy to find what you need to know.

Here are some links to ITTF literature that provide answers to a lot of questions that come up here.  I think (hope) I have found the most up-to-date versions, but this stuff changes periodically.

Sometimes you need to search ITTF Technical Bulletin T3 for balls  http://www.ittf.com/stories/pictures/T3_Ball_BoD2015.pdf

Technical bulletin T4 for blades and their coverings http://www.ittf.com/stories/pictures/T4_Racket_Coverings_BoD2013.pdf .

Sometimes you need to search the ITTF Handbook http://www.ittf.com/ittf_handbook/2014/2014_2015_ITTF_HB.pdf

Or something different, known as the Handbook for Match Officials  http://www.ittf.com/URC/PDF/HMO_15th_edition.pdf

List of approved balls  http://www.ittf.com/_front_page/ittf1.asp?category=balls

List of authorized racket coverings http://ittf.com/stories/pictures/LARC_2015A.pdf

This being the ITTF, some of what is written is not as precise as you might like.  Feel free to add more if you know about it.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote zeio Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/02/2015 at 12:47pm
I remember Sharara has written on ooakforum about improving on that, especially all those technical leaflets.  Apparently another empty "promise."
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Often times here "rules" questions have come up*.  Sometimes I know the answer (or think I do) but I want to provide the exact wording used by ITTF (because experience shows that the rule may be about as clear as mud).  But then I don't remember where it is.  I end up clicking through lots of these sites and reading through before I find it.

It really is absurd.

* In the for sale section a question very recently came up about a blade with the carbon layer on the outside (where you glue the rubber).  This is not a legal blade (you have to be able to see and feel the wood on the outside face where rubbers attach) but you would never know this if all you looked at was the Laws of Table Tennis, where that requirement is never mentioned.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote fatt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/02/2015 at 12:57pm
I guess baal is too modest to sticky his own topics but we all agree it should be don't we? Clap

Edited by fatt - 11/02/2015 at 12:58pm
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

I guess baal is too modest to sticky his own topics but we all agree it should be don't we? Clap
Second - was just about to suggest it!
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Your wish is my command.

Guys like wturber and zeio really know this stuff in detail.  For the rest of us it is good to know where to look.
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+1 on sticky !!
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Many world class players don't care about the rules. Who must care for the rules then?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote igorponger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/02/2015 at 5:37pm
Originally posted by igorponger igorponger wrote:

Originally posted by igorponger igorponger wrote:

IT IS THE UMPIRE WHO REIGNs the sport...

Baal

You can never make any good use of the books you abovementioned unless you endowed an Umpire`s Certificate/
You have to pass the umpire`s every examenation first, in written and practical.

Umpire in Chief is the only person to determine on the equipment legality.   Player have always to obey an umpire`s verdict.   

Umpire is the power hand, and player is the inferior. This is how the world swings.


The persons in power for USA

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9l2dXKAWQcwJ:www.teamusa.org/~/media/USA_Table_Tennis/Documents/Rules/Umpire%2520Level%2520Criteria.pdf+&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ru&lr=lang_en%7Clang_ru

http://www.midy.com/~usatt/usatt/UmpiresReferees.htm

http://www.midy.com/~usatt/usatt/ClubUmpires.htm



Baal, you have to reach up to Tournament Referee level to deal with any matter of equipment legality. Till then, you considered just kinda an adviser_prophanus. Sorry.

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   --All International, National or Regional Umpires are considered Tournament Referees.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/02/2015 at 6:56pm
Originally posted by igorponger igorponger wrote:



The persons in power for USA

http://www.midy.com/~usatt/usatt/ClubUmpires.htm


I promise, I am not any of these people!  Just some guy at a club.
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Originally posted by kolevtt kolevtt wrote:

Many world class players don't care about the rules. Who must care for the rules then?

Still an answer is missed...
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I didn't post this for top players.  Some people want to know the rules as written.  They are not all in one place.  Now you can find them.  What you do with them is up to you.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote haggisv Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/03/2015 at 10:12pm
A good post, thanks Baal! Thumbs Up

We'll need to keep it up to date though, as most of these documents change over time, especially the LARC which changes at least twice a year.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/03/2015 at 11:12pm
Change over time and without warning sometimes.

Some of these are revised every year or every other year.

I think, though, that a lot of forum members did not know that some of these documents even existed and figured everything was in the Laws of Table Tennis.  But if you know these other rules and guidelines are out there somewhere, you can always find the latest versions with google.
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IMO, this is useful to the Umpires as well as tournament Match Officials.

But the Coaches as well as players must know too. Eg. Legal Serve.



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