What do you think of Federer's form?

Here is the 'can't miss swiss' hitting some forehand smashes. What do you think of his form? Could you beat him? LINK

With that forehand, he will beat Djokovic anytime.

I guess they didn't think about putting spin on the ball to get him to miss.

He can grip it just fine. He is a tennis player of course. That is what makes it funny to me. FYI, his tennis grip, or about any pro tennis grip is a lot different than in TT.

cole_ely wrote: That commercial was terribly done. Someone needs to show him how to grip a racket.

jrscatman wrote: cole_ely wrote: That commercial was terribly done. Someone needs to show him how to grip a racket. Arguably the greatest Tennis player ever, I think you let him hold a racquet any way he wants to hold it! He might actually be a pretty good TT player as TT is the only sport he allowed to play other than Tennis.

Novak is so superior that ATP need to change rating system because of Novak's 16790points (16000 was supposed to be a maximum).

zephyr wrote: I agree that Djokovic is incredibly dominant right now and untouchable, but it's hard to compare the two players when one is peaking, and one is at the twilight of their career.

Nah - I think that Federer makes it look beautiful, but Djokovic is just tennis unchained.

I think tennis has just entered in a phase where Djok has plenty of clear skys. Fed is older and just cannot compete like he used to - Djok takes the legs away no doubt, like Agassi before but with better serves.

Murray hasn't been much of a challenge historically and continues to be a good matchup for Djok.

Nadal is...done?

Besides that there just isn't much out there. I think the best example of this is how Fed just chews up the rest of the field also. Warwrinka can get white hot, I guess.

I'm not sure if Murray has ever really belonged with the big 4 (big 3 sounds better). He record vs the other 3 is pretty darn poor.


Edited by wilkinru - 02/01/2016 at 7:38pm

Some guys like agasi and Roddick were pretty good too. But fed killed those guys that had been champion. Also safin and Hewitt. Were they strong twos?

cole_ely wrote: Some guys like agasi and Roddick were pretty good too. But fed killed those guys that had been champion. Also safin and Hewitt. Were they strong twos?

How many titles and runner ups did the people you are talking about win? Roddick was probably the most consistent of the three and he didn't even play well enough to ever beat Federer per se.

Agassi was from a different era and is distinguished by his longevity, bit not so much his consistency or peak results.

Edited by NextLevel - 02/01/2016 at 9:15pm

It's hard to imagine, but many of those guys were considered world class talents as juniors and had big ambitions. Murray and Djokovic were already noting each other as comp when they were kids. So if the other didn't exist, it would just have been them - it's not like they became competitive only in adulthood.

Federer has a very appealing style to watch. But there were too many players losing to each other below him and that can't be because of his greatness. Looking at Serena's career shows the difference between playing with other great players even if only for a period of time (Venus, Henin) and then having none. Or looking at Evert and Navratilova or Graf and Seles. Would Graf have 22 majors if Seles had never been stabbed?

It matters who your peers are.

Edited by NextLevel - 02/02/2016 at 1:35am

Ray wrote: jrscatman wrote: cole_ely wrote: That commercial was terribly done. Someone needs to show him how to grip a racket. Arguably the greatest Tennis player ever, I think you let him hold a racquet any way he wants to hold it! He might actually be a pretty good TT player as TT is the only sport he allowed to play other than Tennis.  Novak is so superior that ATP need to change rating system because of Novak's 16790points (16000 was supposed to be a maximum).

Well, Novak has 16950 ATP points now.