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    Posted: 01/29/2016 at 9:13am
New year, new you, new stuff to waste your cash on.

Rubbers

Andro Good
Andro GTT (40, 45)
Andro Rasant Chaos

Armstrong Attack 8 (43, 48, 53)

Donic Bluefire Big Slam
Donic Acuda Blue P1 Turbo
Donic Desto F4
Donic Slice 40 CD

Gewo Proton Neo (325, 375, 450)
Gewo Hype XT Pro (40, 50)

Joola Samba (19, 27)
Joola Samba Tech

Mizuno GF Pro

Nittaku Alhelg SC
Nittaku Alhelg SR

Soulspin P16
Soulspin P16ST

Stiga Mantra (S, M, H)
Stiga Genesis (S, M)
Stiga Sculpture
Stiga Structure

Tibhar Evolution EL-S
Tibhar Evolution FX-S

TSP Spectol (Red, Blue)
TSP Regalis (Red, Blue)

Xiom Vega Europe DF
Xiom Vega Asia DF
Xiom Vega SPO
Xiom Vega LPO

Yasaka Shining Dragon

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Andro Core 7 OFF
Andro Core 7 OFF+

DHS Fang Bo B1
DHS Fang Bo B2

Donic Ovtcharov True Carbon
Donic Zhou Yu One
Donic Zhou Yu Two
Donic Zhou Yu Three
Donic Shiono Mataso

Gewo Zoom Pro Light
Gewo Zoom Balance
Gewo Super-Force CF
Gewo X-Force VC
Gewo Balsa Carbon (775, 575, 375)

Joola Air Carbon
Joola Air Fibre

Stiga Carbonado 45
Stiga Carbonado 90
Stiga Eternity V VPS

Tibhar Balsa Def
Tibhar Balsa Allround
Tibhar Balsa Fibre Off
Tibhar Balsa Fibretec
Tibhar Drinkhall Defensive Classic
Tibhar Drinkhall Allround Carbon Classic
Tibhar VS Unlimited

TSP Swat Power
TSP Swat Speed


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New Evo rubbers?
"S" stands for.... Spin? Soft? Sponge?...
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Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:

New Evo rubbers?
"S" stands for.... Spin? Soft? Sponge?...

I'm guessing that EL-S and FX-S are medium and soft sponged versions of Evo MX-S, which has been out for a while now.  I also guess that -P is "power" and -S is "spin", but regardless I'm sure it's just marketing nonsense as usual.
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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:

New Evo rubbers?
"S" stands for.... Spin? Soft? Sponge?...


I'm guessing that EL-S and FX-S are medium and soft sponged versions of Evo MX-S, which has been out for a while now.  I also guess that -P is "power" and -S is "spin", but regardless I'm sure it's just marketing nonsense as usual.


Interesting. The key difference between mxp and mxs is overall hardness. I don't remember whether it was due to topsheet or sponge hardness though. I'm wondering if FX-S will be softer or harder than FX-P and how it will affect the weight.

2 MX-Ps felt heavy for me so I decided to try FX-P but now comes FX-S! What's the release date for these rubbers?



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Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:

Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:

New Evo rubbers?
"S" stands for.... Spin? Soft? Sponge?...


I'm guessing that EL-S and FX-S are medium and soft sponged versions of Evo MX-S, which has been out for a while now.  I also guess that -P is "power" and -S is "spin", but regardless I'm sure it's just marketing nonsense as usual.


Interesting. The key difference between mxp and mxs is overall hardness. I don't remember whether it was due to topsheet or sponge hardness though. I'm wondering if FX-S will be softer or harder than FX-P and how it will affect the weight.

2 MX-Ps felt heavy for me so I decided to try FX-P but now comes FX-S! What's the release date for these rubbers?


It's all a bit misleading IMO, but no worse than any other ESN supplier does.  MX-S had a different sponge, different topsheet, different tuning to MX-P.  Not just a variation on MX-P, but Tibhar just slots it in to their line-up as they see fit.  It's even hard to be sure that EL-S and FX-S will just be softer sponged versions of MX-S yet.  Best to wait for an early yogi review!

Not sure of the release date, I've only seen the packaging on some tibhar marketing images.  They're not even on the LARC yet.
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RACKETS ALL OF PLASTIC ??

Hong Kong TT Association just submitted a proposal for the ITTF AGM oncoming April 2016
    -- That non-wooden materials should be employed for making blades without any restrictions.


Alumimium paddles to generate hipersonyc speedy shots.
With the unvoiced intention by all the "unhappy" Nations of winning chinese players without much physical exertions. Obviously, to shake Chinese superiority down is what the proposal factually aimed for.

Aluminium paddles?? God forbid... Please.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:rw_QFs19uLIJ:www.ittf.com/World_Events/wttc_2016/AGM_BoD/2016_ITTF_AGM_BoD_EN.pdf




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@igorponger: if you want to start another conspiracy on table tennis related to CNT, feel free to start your own thread, this is a new equipment thread for 2016 new releases. You can interpret the proposal all you want in your own thread.
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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

New year, new you, new stuff to waste your cash on.

Rubbers

Tibhar Evolution EL-S
<span style="line-height: 16.8px;">Tibhar Evolution FX-S</span>
<span style="line-height: 16.8px;">
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<span style="line-height: 16.8px;">Xiom Vega Europe DF</span>
<span style="line-height: 16.8px;">Xiom Vega Asia DF</span>
<span style="line-height: 16.8px;">
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<span style="line-height: 16.8px;">Blades</span>
<span style="line-height: 16.8px;">
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<span style="line-height: 16.8px;">Tibhar Balsa Def</span>
<span style="line-height: 16.8px;">Tibhar Balsa Allround</span>
<span style="line-height: 16.8px;">Tibhar Balsa Fibre Off</span>
<span style="line-height: 16.8px;">Tibhar Balsa Fibretec</span>

http://www.ttshop.cn/goods.asp?id=4689

Yasaka ebony carbon.
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Butterfly Peter Korbel has been redesigned, although still without ST handle, only FL.
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New Stiga rubbers made in China. 
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Ah, interesting.  I didn't know Genesis were Chinese rubbers.
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Yes, I tought it would be Made in Japan, something closer to Tenergy.
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Well, still looking forward to seeing it.  Depending on price, of course.

In other news, just seen in Butterfly's catalog that they've got shirts made out of...deep breath...Nano Bamboo.  Nano.  Bamboo.
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Some new Donic things creeping out.
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Originally posted by igorponger igorponger wrote:

RACKETS ALL OF PLASTIC ??

Hong Kong TT Association just submitted a proposal for the ITTF AGM oncoming April 2016
    -- That non-wooden materials should be employed for making blades without any restrictions.


Alumimium paddles to generate hipersonyc speedy shots.
With the unvoiced intention by all the "unhappy" Nations of winning chinese players without much physical exertions. Obviously, to shake Chinese superiority down is what the proposal factually aimed for.

Aluminium paddles?? God forbid... Please.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:rw_QFs19uLIJ:www.ittf.com/World_Events/wttc_2016/AGM_BoD/2016_ITTF_AGM_BoD_EN.pdf




ITTF tell us to use slower ball, and someone try to bring up faster blade to hit the slower ball.

Cry out loud !!!
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Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:

Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:

New Evo rubbers?
"S" stands for.... Spin? Soft? Sponge?...


I'm guessing that EL-S and FX-S are medium and soft sponged versions of Evo MX-S, which has been out for a while now.  I also guess that -P is "power" and -S is "spin", but regardless I'm sure it's just marketing nonsense as usual.


Interesting. The key difference between mxp and mxs is overall hardness. I don't remember whether it was due to topsheet or sponge hardness though. I'm wondering if FX-S will be softer or harder than FX-P and how it will affect the weight.

2 MX-Ps felt heavy for me so I decided to try FX-P but now comes FX-S! What's the release date for these rubbers?





Part of the issue is definitely the balance of the Stratus blade, but I would say it is worth trying EL-P in max or 2.0mm or MX-P in 2.0mm if you couldn't handle the weight of max MX-P.  I had similar issues with Max MX-S.
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Here comes another Stiga blade.



Edited by AndySmith - 02/25/2016 at 9:06am
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:

Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:

New Evo rubbers?
"S" stands for.... Spin? Soft? Sponge?...


I'm guessing that EL-S and FX-S are medium and soft sponged versions of Evo MX-S, which has been out for a while now.  I also guess that -P is "power" and -S is "spin", but regardless I'm sure it's just marketing nonsense as usual.


Interesting. The key difference between mxp and mxs is overall hardness. I don't remember whether it was due to topsheet or sponge hardness though. I'm wondering if FX-S will be softer or harder than FX-P and how it will affect the weight.

2 MX-Ps felt heavy for me so I decided to try FX-P but now comes FX-S! What's the release date for these rubbers?






Part of the issue is definitely the balance of the Stratus blade, but I would say it is worth trying EL-P in max or 2.0mm or MX-P in 2.0mm if you couldn't handle the weight of max MX-P.  I had similar issues with Max MX-S.


I switched to H3-50 in 2.1 with one layer of FTL and FX-P 2.0 not boosted. Much better since both rubbers are in medium-heavy range.
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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Here comes another Stiga blade.

Wow, it looks so beautiful.

Expecting this to be priced similarly to the Emerald VPS V (around £100?)
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All time Joola best seller (Samba) returns being made in Japan after Samba+ (Made in Germany by ESN)



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No new equipment will help improve our games especially my game. I will spend my money on some new guitars. It's always greener on the other side of the road...not.
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Somebody please tell Stiga that they don't need another "hard" blade.
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Yasaka blades:
Rose Grade
Galaxya Carbon Special
Siam Feel
Sweden Carbon

Nittaku blades:
Tornado King Speed  (made in japan, some people thought it was a rename hurricane king from dhs before, but it's not)
Tornado King Power
Tornado King
MA LONG Carbon (made by DHS)
MA LONG 5 (made by DHS)
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Originally posted by frogger frogger wrote:


No new equipment will help improve our games especially my game. I will spend my money on some new guitars. It's always greener on the other side of the road...not.


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Why Nittaku sells Ma long 5 made by DHS? Will Nittaku make Ma long 5 in Japan?
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Rubbers:

Stiga Mantra S
Stiga Mantra M
Stiga Mantra H

made in Japan.
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Why Nittaku sells Ma long 5 made by DHS? Will Nittaku make Ma long 5 in Japan?


   I think they distribute for DHS in Japan eg . Nittaku H3 etc.
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Rubbers:

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