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The soul of rock 
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 Topic: Please help with my servicesPosted: 02/12/2016 at 7:14pm |
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On a rare night that my club is empty, I took the chance to record the video of myself practicing serving. After watching the clips, I realized that my services are either too long or too high and I would really appreciate if you guys can give me some pointers on how to fix my services. Thanks.
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NextLevel
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Take more risks with letting the ball drop more before contacting it. Try to spend more time between serves and visualize the trajectory you want the ball to take. Put targets on the table for the first bounce.
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Posted: 02/12/2016 at 8:25pm |
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Don't need fixed. I agree ball could drop lower. Also agree that you could take more time and ready yourself between serves. You do what I tend do when practicing serves which is relax after the serve instead of envisioning a nasty return and getting quickly back into ready position in the service motion.
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the serve seems fine to me; just wonder did people call illegal serve on your before?
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The soul of rock
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Posted: 02/12/2016 at 9:00pm |
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Thank you all for the advice. I'll try again tomorrow to see if I can make any adjustments.
@Egghead: I haven't been called for illegal services. Why did you ask about that? Is that my palm that cover the ball? I was just too lazy to do proper throw...
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Posted: 02/12/2016 at 9:53pm |
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I didn´t see any service second-bouncing on the line. This is the service you should try to practice.
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Your serves are good, but could be better. I would change two things.
1. All of your serves have side spin on them. The more side on the ball the less underspin. It would be good to have the option having more underspin or more sidespin. Try to flatten your blade more for pure underspin. It's more difficult than it seems. 2. Move your body quickly forward when contacting the ball. It will give you more spin. edit I didn't see TTNewbee's post until after I gave my advice, but he made a good point. Edited by mts388 - 02/12/2016 at 11:39pm |
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The soul of rock
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Thank you all for the advice again. I used to do pure underspin services only and most of the time it is just too easy to be flicked with the BH over table. By adding side spin I think I have more space to add varieties to the spin. I will definitely try to do more down the line serves tomorrow.
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Pure underspin doesn't have to be down the line. I get my best results going between their backhand and forehand. By doing that you're adding another decision they have to make to their receiving process. |
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Victor_the_cleaner
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Posted: 02/12/2016 at 11:22pm |
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Serves. not services.
Or do you offer any services?
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Pure under spin is fine; you just need to apply varieties under spin (from no under spin to heavy heavy under spin) at a match with varieties landing points. Then, you apply long serve once in a while  |
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The soul of rock
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Service is the noun form of serve, actually. Or at least that's what ITTF use for the action of serving http://www.ittf.com/ittf_handbook/hb.asp?FormName=Search&FormAction=search&s_Description=Service&last_update= |
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your serves seem fine, maybe over watching, and too many faults
sometimes ill only focus on where the ball lands on my side of the table as that's the key to what happens next. I sometimes to move my feet slightly to change angles, and latter learn some kickers and no spin as to add variety I think Next level said to let the ball drop a bit more, try some of those with only sidespin |
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Your serve in general is fine like many have said. What I would suggest you to do is working on the location of the serve and varieties (no spin, heavy spin, short and long, etc). Remember, if you can win a point on serve, your opponent is not at your level anyway. So your serve is simply set up your next shot. So you can practice with it by moving your body as if you are attacking the serve return to complete the serve practice. Serving the ball is important, but visualizing what you do after the serve is just as important. Hope this helps.
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NextLevel
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Posted: 02/13/2016 at 7:59am |
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The way my coach would put it is get lower and contact the ball at your chest height closer to the height of the net. Your stance while practicing is not a good one for serving or recovery. But since I have bad knees, he gives me a pass. He wouldn't give you one.
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You have good advice so far.
Good things: Your serves don't stink! You get decent spin and I don't see any huge problems. But there are some problems or issues that need to be addressed: 1) Your contact height varies too much, and is almost always too high. As others have said, learn to contact the ball lower to help control the service height and avoid high serves. 2) Rushing! This too has been mentioned, and is super common. I strongly advise taking ONE ball, getting set and visualizing your serve, executing a perfect toss, serve (with 100% focus), then MOVE INTO A READY POSITION. For every ball! 3) The last part "Moving into Position" will depend a bit on what serve you do, your game, and on what your (imaginary!) opponent likes to do. Part of this process is re-gripping if you use a pinch grip or other special service grip. 4) Focus on the depth of your first bounce. This, along with the adjustment in contact point, will really help your consistency. 5) Try to get the second bounce on your opponent's side to either be VERY short (as a variation) or very close to the end line. 6) Again as others have said, vary your service locations - using targets is a good way to do this. Sheets of paper, or partial sheets can be placed on opposite side of the table, then try to have the second bounce on the far side land on the paper. Good Luck! bes |
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You have a strong defense here.. Looks like I was wrong.. I don't know why it sounds so wrong to me.. But I guess i have to take that back.
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Sorry, unrelated to the serve. I think everyone has already given heaps of good advice.
If you watch some tennis you'll hear them say "service" a lot. "Net, first service"
Doesn't sound weird to me at all, though I generally only hear it in more formal settings. |
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the most deceptive servers to me have heavy and low spin variations a particular serve, and they make them both look really really similar. Also, heavy short side under and heavy short top(mainly the corkscrew serves) can also be disguised to look similar. But yeah, it only looks deceptive when you get yua serves reallly low and get a fine smooth contact (which you seem to get, but not consistently).
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