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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/22/2017 at 2:41pm
The one-star ABS DHS (D40+) is really weird I think, really nothing at all like the 3-star version.  I was really depressed one I first hit with them, but fortunately the 3-star version arrived a few days later and I liked it.
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The 1-star is likely left from the first few batches when it was first released in 2016. The 3-star didn't get released until early 2017. Given the price, there is no point in getting the 1-star at all.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hans Regenkurt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/23/2017 at 12:25am
Both my P40+ and my DHS D40+ are from MArch 2017 according to the code: XCAG
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China Open balls have image printed  .... really sticks out  .... makes easier to read spins!



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote geek Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/10/2017 at 1:26am
Does anyone know if balls Donic P40+ (ABS) produce DHS or Double Fish?
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Can DHS D40+ ball be used in top level table tennis tournaments, if yes, has it been used in a major tournament?

Another question, does DHS have any plan to produce a premium grade plastic ball, or this will be it? 

Just ordered some D40+ balls and wonder if I still need to buy some NP40+ balls. 

Thanks.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote zeio Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/11/2017 at 10:49pm
WTTC Dusseldorf 2017 was the first major in which the DHS D40+ was used. The D40+ was first introduced in Korea Open 2017.

DHS will likely stick with the D40+ for the foreseeable future.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote book4all Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/11/2017 at 10:58pm
Thanks Zeio! This is really a good new development by DHS. Competition is a good thing for 40+ plastic balls. Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote deams59 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/12/2017 at 12:12am
I believe Nittaku Premium 40+ was used in Dusseldorf.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote zeio Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/12/2017 at 12:24am
Perfect chance to quote Mr. President:

"I didn't say that."
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http://www.ittf.com/2017/03/20/commencing-korea-new-dhs-plastic-ball-used-ittf-world-tour-challenge-tournaments/

Beginning with the Seamaster ITTF World Tour Korea Open; for which the qualification competition commences on Tuesday 18th April, all ITTF World Tour events and all ITTF Challenge tournaments for the rest of the year will be played using the new DHS Plastic Ball (DHS D40+***).

Events for which a Prospectus has been issued and will now use the new DHS Plastic Ball (DHS D40+***) ball are:

…………….Seamaster ITTF World Tour Korea Open

…………….ITTF Challenge Seamaster Chile Open

…………….ITTF Challenge Slovenia Open

…………….ITTF Challenge Croatia Open

…………….ITTF Challenge Seamaster Brazil Open

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http://www.teamusa.org/USA-Table-Tennis/Features/2016/March/18/NITTAKU-Premium-40-Named-Official-Ball-for-2017-World-Championships

"The Nittaku 3-Star Premium 40+ is chosen as the official ball for the next World Championships taking place in Dusseldorf, Germany May 29 through June 5, 2017."
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Viscaria FL - 91g
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It is very fine - if ITTF World Tour events and all ITTF Challenge tournaments can use D40+, there is no reason we cannot use it.Smile 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Egghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/12/2017 at 4:42pm
Originally posted by deams59 deams59 wrote:

I believe Nittaku Premium 40+ was used in Dusseldorf.
Ya, P40+ was used in ATTC too. With that, few people believed JNT's good results at ATTC / WTTC were because of the ball LOL


Edited by Egghead - 07/13/2017 at 1:41pm
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Originally posted by book4all book4all wrote:

http://www.teamusa.org/USA-Table-Tennis/Features/2016/March/18/NITTAKU-Premium-40-Named-Official-Ball-for-2017-World-Championships

"The Nittaku 3-Star Premium 40+ is chosen as the official ball for the next World Championships taking place in Dusseldorf, Germany May 29 through June 5, 2017."


And also with regards to the prior post with ITTF/DHS

Just to let you know book4all......

USATT is forever in bed with Nittaku
ITTF is in bed with DHS...but they allowed various approved balls pending host's liking if possible.    

This has not changed in some time even back with the celluloid balls. 
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For those interested, Paddle Palace just started selling the DHS D40+ balls for $19.95 for a box of 10.
I had a chance to play with these balls for about 2 hours today, and was quite pleased with them.  They were round, and the bounce was very consistent and predictable, and importantly, I didn't break any during my practice.  
The balls appear to be somewhat similar to Nittaku Premium 40+ ... Interestingly, even though I have had significant problems when switching from seamless poly balls to Nittaku, I had very little trouble adjusting to DHS D40+.  

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Originally posted by VictorK VictorK wrote:

For those interested, Paddle Palace just started selling the DHS D40+ balls for $19.95 for a box of 10.



on TTNPP you get 72 balls for $40 and free shipping
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Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by VictorK VictorK wrote:

For those interested, Paddle Palace just started selling the DHS D40+ balls for $19.95 for a box of 10.


on TTNPP you get 72 balls for $40 and free shipping


That's a huge price difference.  I'm curious whether DHS has such a large price discrepancy between continents, or perhaps there's a quality difference between these balls - similar to versions of Hurricane rubbers (i.e. national, provincial, etc.)

Btw, I had a second practice session playing with the D40+ balls, and the more I play with them the more I like them. I did some footwork drills, and my consistency (length of rallies, ball placement, etc) was significantly above what I've been experiencing with seamless balls - which I actually like, as long as they are round.

Talking about roundness of seamless balls, I recently bought a batch of 36 Joola Flash balls, and they were horrendous.  Maybe two of every ten balls were round enough to be playable.
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Originally posted by VictorK VictorK wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by VictorK VictorK wrote:

For those interested, Paddle Palace just started selling the DHS D40+ balls for $19.95 for a box of 10.


on TTNPP you get 72 balls for $40 and free shipping


That's a huge price difference.  I'm curious whether DHS has such a large price discrepancy between continents, or perhaps there's a quality difference between these balls - similar to versions of Hurricane rubbers (i.e. national, provincial, etc.)

Btw, I had a second practice session playing with the D40+ balls, and the more I play with them the more I like them. I did some footwork drills, and my consistency (length of rallies, ball placement, etc) was significantly above what I've been experiencing with seamless balls - which I actually like, as long as they are round.

Talking about roundness of seamless balls, I recently bought a batch of 36 Joola Flash balls, and they were horrendous.  Maybe two of every ten balls were round enough to be playable.


I sent Wil a bunch of them two months ago. For some reason, it seemed that there was an internal decision to stay with the seamless, but maybe that will change with time. I know getting free balls is a good thing but so is having a consistent durable ball and in my play, the D40+ is more consistent than the alternatives.
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Originally posted by VictorK VictorK wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by VictorK VictorK wrote:

For those interested, Paddle Palace just started selling the DHS D40+ balls for $19.95 for a box of 10.


on TTNPP you get 72 balls for $40 and free shipping


That's a huge price difference.  I'm curious whether DHS has such a large price discrepancy between continents, or perhaps there's a quality difference between these balls - similar to versions of Hurricane rubbers (i.e. national, provincial, etc.)

Btw, I had a second practice session playing with the D40+ balls, and the more I play with them the more I like them. I did some footwork drills, and my consistency (length of rallies, ball placement, etc) was significantly above what I've been experiencing with seamless balls - which I actually like, as long as they are round.

Talking about roundness of seamless balls, I recently bought a batch of 36 Joola Flash balls, and they were horrendous.  Maybe two of every ten balls were round enough to be playable.

Next Level first ordered from ttnpp on 2/28/2017
Since then many forum members have stocked up .....
there is no quality difference only a price difference 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/17/2017 at 2:31pm
I got 72 DHS D40+ 3* balls for $40 from TTNPP. 

Trust me, the balls are excellent.

(Plus there is no reason to believe that DHS would ship good balls to the US and keep the crappy ones in China.  One would actually expect the reverse, but in any case, it is not a problem).
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I swapped all of my training balls to these. From my experience they do play similar to the butterfly NP40+ but I feel like with a little less spin on some shots. I think they are a bit harder and get through the sponge a bit easier so perhaps on powerful shots I'm not quite getting the spin I expect.

Besides those small differences they sure are an affordable and durable replacement for multiball and robot situations. I bought 72 x 4 for the record and they sent me extras(like 22? more), I think just to fill up the box.

Of course you can play with them in matches but most everyone in my area plays only NP40+.
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Double Fish has released similar ball.  Do they make their own ball??
on ttnpp.com.  Has anyone tried them .... compare to dhs?

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Yes it is their own.  Next Level has more experience with them than I do.  It is not bad at all but I have only played them twice.  I still prefer D40+.
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