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Check the previous post.
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Originally posted by Egghead Egghead wrote:

You are right; it didn't mean DF has its own machines.



The translation for the passage above, "Second is technological innovation to improve core competitiveness. Importing advanced and efficient ABS table tennis ball manufacturing equipment, pushing forward the process innovation in table tennis ball injection-molding technology."

It's tiring having to translate every single time just to get the message across.
That is the problem; manufacturing equipment come in different shapes and forms. DF can have the abs table tennis ball cleaning, trimming, QC, or stamping equipment. It says nothing in the whole pt 2 about manufacturing abs balls, only ball's QC & packaging.

"二是技术创新提升核心竞争力。引进市场上先进高效的ABS乒乓球制造设备,推进乒乓球注塑工艺技术革新。对乒乓球重心自动检测设备、乒乓球自动包装机、球台面生产设备、羽毛球系列工艺设备进行全面改造,实现降本增效。组建乒乓球拍套胶研发室,开发高端套胶产品。"

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Unbelievable. Injection-molding is the core technology behind the DHS D40+/DFish V40+/Nittaku Premium 40+ ball utilizing the ABS material. It's clear they are referring to their own machines.

Why don't you translate the rest of the passage for the world to see what DFish meant?
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Did you also get 6 boxes w 10 each plus a bag with 12 balls, ordering from ttnpp?
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Originally posted by PringlesRingles PringlesRingles wrote:

Did you also get 6 boxes w 10 each plus a bag with 12 balls, ordering from ttnpp?
I think they give u 12 boxes of 6. 

Anyway, I believe ttnpp runs out of stock now. My clubmates and I ordered the balls last week, and TTnpp don't ship the order yet Dead.
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Originally posted by Egghead Egghead wrote:

Anyway, I believe ttnpp runs out of stock now. My clubmates and I ordered the balls last week, and TTnpp don't ship the order yet Dead.
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Order confirmation is fast, almost instantaneously.
Shipping notification is slow, takes a few days.
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Depends on stock. They shipped my second order in one day.
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Depends on stock. They shipped my second order in one day.

I ordered a box on Friday. It's already at Los Angeles ISC. USPS site says I should expect it Friday, which puts it at 7 days delivery. Probably the fastest shipment I will ever receive from overseas... pending the actual delivery :P
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Originally posted by coffeeholic coffeeholic wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Depends on stock. They shipped my second order in one day.

I ordered a box on Friday. It's already at Los Angeles ISC. USPS site says I should expect it Friday, which puts it at 7 days delivery. Probably the fastest shipment I will ever receive from overseas... pending the actual delivery :P
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So, you ordered on 3-17 and the box is in the US on 3-21. That's very fast.
I ordered on 3-13 (mid-night, US Eastern. Or 3-14 noon HK time), not in USA yet.
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Annoyingly my order of 72 has not yet arrived (not from TTNPP)
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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Originally posted by coffeeholic coffeeholic wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Depends on stock. They shipped my second order in one day.

I ordered a box on Friday. It's already at Los Angeles ISC. USPS site says I should expect it Friday, which puts it at 7 days delivery. Probably the fastest shipment I will ever receive from overseas... pending the actual delivery :P
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So, you ordered on 3-17 and the box is in the US on 3-21. That's very fast.
I ordered on 3-13 (mid-night, US Eastern. Or 3-14 noon HK time), not in USA yet.

Correct. My paypal transaction was completed 12:37PM PDT on 3/17. It arrived in Los Angeles ISC 8:08PM PDT 3/20. (3 and a half days!!!) I think I got lucky with the timing of the batch shipment.
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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Annoyingly my order of 72 has not yet arrived (not from TTNPP)

I order a couple of times from HongKong and China each year. Anything shipped from HongKong takes 10 to 15 Days. Any packages shipped from China takes a minimum of 2 weeks to 40 days. This is the situation if they are using EMS shipping.

ttnpp is located in HongKong so the shipping is a little faster. 


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Commencing in Korea, new DHS Plastic Ball to be used at all ITTF World Tour and Challenge tournaments

21 Mar 2017

Beginning with the Seamaster ITTF World Tour Korea Open; for which the qualification competition commences on Tuesday 18th April, all ITTF World Tour events and all ITTF Challenge tournaments for the rest of the year will be played using the new DHS Plastic Ball (DHS D40+***).

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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Annoyingly my order of 72 has not yet arrived (not from TTNPP)
 

Any place better than buying from TTNPP? I see no competition for their cheap price now. 
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Originally posted by TurboZ TurboZ wrote:

Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Annoyingly my order of 72 has not yet arrived (not from TTNPP)
 

Any place better than buying from TTNPP? I see no competition for their cheap price now. 

You can get them from taobao (~34 usd + S&h for 90 balls), just a little troublesome transaction Wink
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Mine arrived pretty quick. Within a week. 
This ball at this price is going to be very tough to beat. Major upgrade for DHS.
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Ordered on March 19 at TTnpp. Shipped today on March 22.
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I have never bought anything from Taobao, don't know how much headache or trouble one will have.

The price shown is for 10 balls.
For 100 balls and add S&H, it will be about $51 (USD).
Taobao accepts credit cards, but not Paypal.

(On the left side of the picture, it seems to mean that the ball is quite durable.)
https://world.taobao.com/item/546584074553.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.cmrDRZ#detail

*** ttnpp sells 72 balls for $40 - no headache, no trouble.***


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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

I have never bought anything from Taobao, don't know how much headache or trouble one will have.

The price shown is for 10 balls.
For 100 balls and add S&H, it will be about $51 (USD).
Taobao accepts credit cards, but not Paypal.

(On the left side of the picture, it seems to mean that the ball is quite durable.)
https://world.taobao.com/item/546584074553.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.cmrDRZ#detail

*** ttnpp sells 72 balls for $40 - no headache, no trouble.***
Ya, if you only want the balls, you cannot find a better deal. 
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From the taobao page ....
Can someone translate this part of the page please?


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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

*** ttnpp sells 72 balls for $40 - no headache, no trouble.***

Not something I expected to read about ttnpp.

Good luck everyone who placed their orders!  Mine arrived yesterday from somewhere else.
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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

*** ttnpp sells 72 balls for $40 - no headache, no trouble.***

Not something I expected to read about ttnpp.

Good luck everyone who placed their orders!  Mine arrived yesterday from somewhere else.
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Had my first bash with them tonight.  Sorry to contribute to the appearance of an echo chamber, but they are as they have been described.  Very similar to the NP+, maybe with a slightly softer feel (a positive IMO).  Still harder feeling than seamless, lower bounce, more direct in play, etc etc.

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Yes, their playing properties are between NP40+ and seamless, but closer to NP40+, especially bounce height.
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Originally posted by Egghead Egghead wrote:

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Very interesting. I wonder how they measure the spin? That seems like the main downside from this table.

From those that have tested the ball, do you get much curve on the ball for a spinny loop? To me that's always a good measure of spin. The curve on the celluloid was always highest (even higher on 38mm!), but it was still quite good for the DHS 40+, but noticeable worse on all the seamless balls I've tried, so I'm worried it's going to be poor on the D40+ too (which this table implies).

The 30cm drop values seem different from my experience, the celluloid clearly had a higher bounce compared the 40+.



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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Yes, their playing properties are between NP40+ and seamless, but closer to NP40+, especially bounce height.
My problem with the latest batch of seamless is that they all have soft spots after few hours of playing. do D40+ balls have the same problem? LOL
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Originally posted by haggisv haggisv wrote:

Originally posted by Egghead Egghead wrote:

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Very interesting. I wonder how they measure the spin? That seems like the main downside from this table.


The 30cm drop values seem different from my experience, the celluloid clearly had a higher bounce compared the 40+.


From my test, the D40+ bounces higher than the 40 Cell, both new.

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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Annoyingly my order of 72 has not yet arrived (not from TTNPP)


The balls sit in customs in NY for 7 days.
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Originally posted by LUCKYLOOP LUCKYLOOP wrote:

From my test, the D40+ bounces higher than the 40 Cell, both new.

OK, so that part of the table seems right Thumbs Up, but I was questioning the difference between the celluloid and the 40+ (not the latest D40+).
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