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Bilbo
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Alayna Chan She mainly trains in Europe the last three years and only comes back to Canada occasionally and for Nationals and Canada Cup. She won women's doubles at last year's Canada nationals.
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Stiga Optimum Sync
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bbkon
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mog1111
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im going to try tsp magic pips again they are softish in 1.4-1.7mm. mainly be hitting and blocking off the bounce. coming from h3n on bh so quite a big change.
do I put them on donic wsc, celero wood, infinity or yeo. I figure I should use what I like best for my neo on fh which is wsc or more recently infinity. will sp on bh be decent on infinity, I have strong bh so don't need loads of sponge. |
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Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon
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David_from_Gers
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Hi Speedy, I don't know if you still read this forum, but i'm interested to have your opinion about the bh - wood combination for short pimps, regarding the plastic ball. Did you change your point of view with the new plastic balls or not ? If someone else have ideas, give them ! |
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mykonos96
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I dont know if you want to play with royal but look for another sp if you want to be succesful with your BH |
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Pr1nc
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For SP play Nittaku P700 (better quality), Avalox P700, Stiga Clipper CR. Also you cant go wrong with Yasaka Ma Lin soft carbon.
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mykonos96
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I think karlsson must use a stiffer blade |
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mog1111
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I think you have to be careful as you might still want a good fh loop and you might lose that if you to much on the stiff blades
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Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon
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Pr1nc
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I think Karlsson knows better whats best fits him then us. |
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Blade: Jun Mizutani ZLC
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mykonos96
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What I meant is that people think a flexy blade would be right but karlsson is not using off the shelf stuff |
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mhnh007
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I currently use TB ZLF, and I love it.
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David_from_Gers
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I'm thinking to try a spinlord gipflesturm for my backhand.
On forehand, i want to keep my chinese rubber, bit similar to a boosted h3 (tuttle vip 2018 boosted). My current and prefered blade is an osp ultimate 2, and i also have a barwell fleet, a clasic clipper, a bty zhang jike blue dragon, and some others that i don't like for my forehand. Some friends recommend to me to swtich to a new balsa carbon blade for mastering my backhand short pimples. I'm oriented to use the SP mainly to block and counter hits. Not sure what to test... Thanks for your advices ! |
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David_from_Gers
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that is what i'm afraid of with a balsa carbon combination that people recommand to me. |
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IanMcg
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I don't think balsa is good for short pips, feels too bouncy and hollow. I never tried balsa carbon blades other than the Gergely (which I don't believe is balsa). For SP you want a solid blade, but many players use whatever they feel comfortable with. I say use your Clipper then go from there. Thin carbon blades work but in the end its down to personal preference.
If you're willing to give up spin capabilities for ease of hit and trickier blocks, try YinHe Pluto. Its a raw medium pip but its dirt cheap and is a blast for flat strokes. Just don't count on being able to spin well. |
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achoomai
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I used Tibhar inferno with Tuttle summer for my FH, it is one of my favorite set-up for the soft and spinny short pip.
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My feedback : http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=58844&PN=1#726094
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speedy
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David, Yes, I am still here. I am not really actively playing table tennis. I went back playing more soccer/football for 3 years now. I play 6 hours of soccer/football a week and 6 hours of table tennis a month. "Did you change your point of view with the new plastic balls or not ?" This is a great question. In general, I don't change my pips on my backhand. However, I change my strokes a little, and I also change my tactics a little for plastic balls. Because my game change a little bit, I also change my forehand rubbers. What am I doing differently? 1. I used to play 70% backhand and 30% forehand. Now, I have to play 40% backhand and 60% forehand. Without going into any details, I rely on my forehand to win more points now. That's why I change my rubber on my forehand. 2. Countering and blocking with the backhand is easier now, but it is also harder to win points with counterblock now. So, the counterblock on the backhand is just for setting up for forehand finish. 3. Short game is easier because we don't have as much spin on the ball as with celloid ball. So again, I use my backhand to set up and finish with forehand. Again, I don't have to change the equipment, I just change my game a little. The next question is... which game do I prefer? I like my game before the plastic ball. Why? Because I could play my backhand all day without stepping around and doing any footwork drills. I am a lazy player. I hope I answered your question. Good luck, |
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SPEEDY
Viscaria Super ALC ST JOOLA Rhyzen CMD(FH) Nittaku Moristo SP (BH) |
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speedy
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David, I used Balsa blades (Komann Blue Tiger, TSP Balsa 6.5, Andro Super Core CL OFF+, Joola Kool, Joola MC1, Hunter Flame, Hunter X-Carbon, etc...) with short pips. I love the feel of the balsa and short pips. Why did I change to something else? Well, most of these blades are TOO THICK for my taste. It's hard to push and flip inside the table, so I changed to other blades. Since we change to plastic balls, I am thinking about going back to balsa blades every day. There are a few benefits that I think you may like: 1. It's light and you have more hand speed. Essentially, you will create more speed and spin. 2. Balsa blades pair well with Chinese rubbers and other soft rubbers. Out of all the balsa blades I tested and played with, go with TSP. Their blades are more stable (nice sweet spots) than others. Joola Kool is the BEST. However, I sold both of my blades oh man... after I am typing this and thinking it through, I will defintely go back to Balsa Carbon now. Thanks for the question...
Edited by speedy - 10/01/2018 at 8:08pm |
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SPEEDY
Viscaria Super ALC ST JOOLA Rhyzen CMD(FH) Nittaku Moristo SP (BH) |
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David_from_Gers
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You're welcome !
Thanks a lot for all your answers and opinions. |
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David_from_Gers
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Joola kool seems pretty cool :)
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David_from_Gers
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But the joola seems too thick for me.
I think i'll try on my current blade, osp ultimate 2, and may be on the SpinLord Ultra Balsa v which was recommended by frenches and russians. For the clipper, i like its control, but i'm fed up with the small sweetspot for my forehand topspin. |
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mykonos96
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There is some pips that work better with bladed with walnut plies.some hard blades give a sick reversal almost like LP |
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