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ronakvyas86
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It seems like the manufacturer make a ton of difference when it comes to buying a penhold blade, despite the built quality. For example, YEO Cpen is immensely popular than its shakehand version, some say that the shakehand just suck. I own a Joola Rossi Emotion Cpen and despite an excellent built quality, it just doesn't feel right. The head size is smaller than regular, not something you'd want in a cpen blade. So, which manufacturers make the best cpen blades? I can see that DHS, Yasaka and Nittaku are some. I'd like to hear a few opinions.
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Yasaka Goiabao 5 CPEN, Donic Baracuda MAX FH & RPB
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I make a c-pen in wood/arylate. The Valor FB- 515. I would put this blade up against any that have been mentioned so far.
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AMonteiro
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First of all, I don't think YEO shakehand sucks. It is very well reviewed here on MyTT. About Cpens, the most used by Pros is Stiga, Yasaka, DHS.. Some brands just put a shorter handle on shakehand blades, so they feel unbalanced with wrong sizes and proportions. It could be the case of your Joola Cpen.
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Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR
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ronakvyas86
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Any idea about xiom cpens? Do they have the same "only shorter handle" difference than shakehand? |
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Yasaka Goiabao 5 CPEN, Donic Baracuda MAX FH & RPB
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khmd
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If you have a small hand, Stiga's CPen is not recommended since it is
too thick to hold it comfortably. DHS, Yasaka, Avalox, Nittaku, and Butterfly handles are comfortable for small hand person. don't know xiom's. Edited by khmd - 05/03/2016 at 12:42pm |
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AMonteiro
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Xiom Cpens are: 159mm x 150mm (shorter compared to Swedish made brands). Ps: Stradivarius Cpen is 163mm x 149mm Yasaka Cpens: 166mm x 150mm Stiga Cpens: 165mm x 151mm Donic: 164mm x 150mm Forgot about Avalox, they are good also.
Edited by AMonteiro - 05/03/2016 at 1:03pm |
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opinari
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I don't think this is right - are you measuring from the top of the handle? My Stiga penhold blades (Intensity, Rosewood) were each just shy of 160mm (around 159mm) - the Intensity is so ever slightly longer, but only by a millimeter (and might have been QC related). My old Xiom penhold (Icarus) and my old Butterfly penhold (Chinese Real) are shorter than the Stigas. I agree though that Yasaka and DHS (Hurricane Hao) are the longest, as compared to folks who have those blades. The new Butterfly blades (starting from last year) are also 161mm and longer than my Stiga.
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Boss1703
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I have a joola kool! c-pen and a joola kool! sh... the head of the c-pen is bigger.
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Boss1703
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i think you could find the c-pen you want here:
http://www.tabletennis11.com/eur_eng/blades-penholder
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AMonteiro
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Data from Yasaka/Stiga/Donic japanese catalog..
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Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR
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bbkon
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Some brands have narrow handles like nittaku and donic for cpens. I m looking for cpens with the same width as stiga |
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TurboZ
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Cpen handle size is not brand specific. They all made small and big Cpen handles within each brand. Nittaku Septear is like a child play but Ludeack is real thick. Xiom V1 is normal in size but Strato is again huge. Donic Waldner WC89 easily got the thickest handle in my collection. Personally I like all DHS Hao's Cpen handle and blade size.
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bbkon
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Is xiom v1 wide as stiga? |
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TurboZ
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I found Xiom V1 has the same width as that of Stiga Intensity Cpen. But the plys of Stiga is thicker so the feel of V1's handle is thinner. Handle alone is pretty much the same.
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opinari
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Just as a FYI, I still don't think that's right - maybe it's older catalogs that used a different way of measuring. For example, latest Yasaka catalog states that Yasaka blades are 163 x 150mm (http://ta-q.jp/j/catalog/Yasaka_2016/P024.html). I would refer folks to the measurements on Japanese websites (e.g., Iruiru), which appear accurate and in any event match the actual measurements of the blades that I have in my collection. Butterfly (2015): 161 x 150 Yasaka: 163 x 150 Nittaku: Depends, some 161 x 151 (e.g., Acoustic, Violin), others smaller (e.g., Ludeack, Rutis) Donic: 162 x 150 Stiga: 159 x 150 DHS: 164 x 150 See also prior post on this subject (http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61930&title=cpens-that-have-big-head-dimensions). These days the shape of penhold blades are all starting to conform to the shape of Yasaka blades - elongated instead of a round shape. |
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Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR
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opinari
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For the benefit of anyone reading this thread, the info above is wrong. Interesting though - it contradicts the official Yasaka catalogs (see my post) and actual measurements for Stiga. Is that from a magazine or third party retailer? To my knowledge, there is not a "Yasaka / Donic / Stiga" catalog, but separate catalogs since they are separate companies. For example: Stiga: http://ta-q.jp/j/catalog/STIGA_2016/thumb01.html Yasaka: http://ta-q.jp/j/catalog/Yasaka_2016/thumb01.html
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Blade: BTY Zhang Jike ALC-CS
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AMonteiro
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It's a catalog.. Anyway, I don't have time and will to scan and post all pages here.. Good luck to OP!
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Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR
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xujinjiang99
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It's not uncommon for manufacturers go give wrong "official information". They do that all the time.
When it comes to head sizes, it depends on specific models and even specific years. The head size information on the above pic, at best, applies to three specific models. By no means, it is true for all Stiga, Donic and Yasaka Cpens. Actually, I have never heard of any Stiga Cpen with such a big head. |
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ronakvyas86
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What about yinhe/galaxy cpens? What headsize do they come in?
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Yasaka Goiabao 5 CPEN, Donic Baracuda MAX FH & RPB
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DLC1325
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I'm curios about this as well. I really enjoy my shakehand E-1 for the money and have thought about getting it in Cpen. |
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PierreAd
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Waiting for a Galaxy W6 (and a DHS PG7 as well, but that's not the point ;) ). If you're still interested, I'll give you the dimensions as soon as the blade arrives, in about 2 weeks I think. |
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ronakvyas86
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Yeah. I'd very much like that. Thanks |
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Yasaka Goiabao 5 CPEN, Donic Baracuda MAX FH & RPB
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wanhao
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You guys should try using Sword..before it gets popular..lol..
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bbkon
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What blade feels more solid and fast v1 or intensity? |
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ChichoFicho
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If you are a traditional penholder, get Taksim. If you use two rubbers and rpb, Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon. If you are combination player (short pips forehand, inverted backhand), then get Clipper CR. That's about everything one need to know about cpen blades.
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ronakvyas86
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Can you tell me where to find taksim? |
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Yasaka Goiabao 5 CPEN, Donic Baracuda MAX FH & RPB
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TurboZ
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I have not put rubbers on V1 yet so can't compare. My Intensity is light with a crispy and hollow feel. Fast for a 5 ply wood blade.
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ronakvyas86
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What is the headsize of avalox cpen blades?
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Yasaka Goiabao 5 CPEN, Donic Baracuda MAX FH & RPB
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bbkon
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Anybody knows if b777 has a thin handle like p700? |
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