Tibhar Evolution EL-S and FX-S

adishorul wrote: Can anybody compare evo el-s with omega v euro ?

El-s is harder and spinnier than the omega V euro, though the OV is definitely easier to use and feels better on the bh. Also, I guess the OV has a higher throw (not sure though).

Let me clarify - none of the Evolution rubbers correlate 1:1 with Tenergy rubbers. What I wanted to suggest is that T05 and T05fx users could relatively easily switch to EL-S and FX-S, respectively. MX-P (and MX-S in particular) are quite different from T05 (lower throw) - I seem to remember T64 as a lower throwing rubber relative to T05, hence the MX-P ~ T64 suggestion.

NextLevel wrote: I think it is more appropriate to say that if you use a Tenergy (05, 64, 80), you can adapt to MX-P without major changes in your technique. As much as people sometimes talk about the differences in the Tenergies, they are pretty similar as well.

+1.

@Patrick, as usual a very nice & in depth review. How ever I'm perplexed by by the "approximation chart", specifically for MX-P...

"Accordingly, there should be something for every taste, including current Butterfly Tenergy users. I think the following approximation chart is reasonable: MX-S = particularly hard-sponged variants of T05/T64; MX-P = T64; EL-S = T05, and FX-S = T05fx....."

Most of our respected forum members feel the MX-P plays closer to a T05 (maybe Baal would like to chime in, as he uses MX-P on both wings)...

Well, that convinced me to buy an EL-S these next few days. 

Edited by Chicobo - 11/11/2016 at 11:29pm

I'll let you know my impressions when I got mine next week. FXS looks promising to me but I was expecting to be faster than 05FX which I didn't like it at all with PB either.

Looking forward to your reviews, Patrick!

I´m not complaining about it, but i was so excited about it and i´s just another plain/decent rubber w/o nothing special

NextLevel wrote: Chopper88 wrote: Am I the only guy in this forum that think the EL-S is playable, Spin is on par with the Acuda Blues, Speed is good and controllable, the throw is also good , why do so many have issue with a good rubber ? No, you are not. I could very easily use it. The question is what it solves for me vs 05.

IMO it's close enough to T05 , for me it's in between 05 and 05FX. I'm missing a bit of spin on the serves but not something that cannot be overcome

I see why they made MXS and ELS. ELS wouldn't replace my MXP but if you boost ELS and prefer a softer rubber to MXP with harder top sheet it can be very good.

After trying ELS Im kind of interested in MXS. Personally I like overall hardness of MXP but in theory a boosted MXS would play very similar to a boosted H3/H2 with similar arc but non tacky of course.

Oh the EJ syndrome...

Everyone just expected a bit too much from it and were lot down, of course it's decent rubber in its own right, just not as good as mx-p, t05 etc

As i said before i´m not that happy with ELS on my BH. Would you rather go for FX-S or maybe EL-P/FX-P? I´m begging to think  it´s the "S" topsheets that are  hard & dead as MXS or ELS but not springy enough

Edited by jonyer1980 - 11/07/2016 at 11:31am

I take back all I say about fx-s.

im back on 05fx for fh and am never trying anything else again in a vain attempt to save money.

you just cant beat that throw angle with tenergy

assam wrote: Ok Barack, you know... I didn't find it much faster. But I've found MX-P much faster than T05. T05 and EL-S don't have such a big difference, but probably depends on your strokes... NextLevel wrote: assam wrote: No, it's not that slow. Pretty much he same speed as T05 Yeah. And I am Barack Obama.

assam wrote: Ok Barack, you know... I didn't find it much faster. But I've found MX-P much faster than T05. T05 and EL-S don't have such a big difference, but probably depends on your strokes... NextLevel wrote: assam wrote: No, it's not that slow. Pretty much he same speed as T05 Yeah. And I am Barack Obama.