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a) Zhang Jike will get his 2nd GRAND SLAM ?
b) Ma Long will achieve his 1st GRAND SLAM ?



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Personally, I think that Zhang Jike has a lower chance than Ma Long. Show your thought by comment in this topic.


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Hoping for Ma Long for win, he is my favorite player to watch, if he fails I will be disappointed and feel bad for him.
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Originally posted by perniciousnc perniciousnc wrote:

ZJK
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Not so fast.  Saw this comment on a Chinese TT website.
   
Poster:   资深国球粉[湖北武汉]
Post:  我敢断定现在的奥运会男女乒乓球出战阵容在上报名单最后期限之前必将改变。我还从没预判失误过。不信?请敬侯佳音.
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The poster predicts that the Olympic's TT players list will be revised before the deadline (which is 7-18-2016).  (The date has been corrected.)

As this comment is to an article about ZJK's loss to Chen Chien-An in the Korea Open, so he implies ZJK.

While LGL does not have the courage to read all those TT fans comments, he must be aware that his friends, colleagues, his boss and his boss's boss and some officials in the government agency (e.g. sports ministry) may be aware of those unfavorable comments - it will be a tough, nail-biting decision for LGL to make.



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Stop reading those silly comments, skip.  Go read up the sections "E. CONFIRMATION PROCESS FOR QUOTA PLACES" and "F. REALLOCATION OF UNUSED QUOTA PLACES" of the qualification system.
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I hope ZJK.
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I think July 18, 2016 is that when everything is carved in the stone.



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Where is my first post when I answered this. I think it was in December 2015. 

ZJK will play, and he will win it. You are just torturing yourself. He is no more losing for the lack of trying, he is in good shape and trying 100%, but is not what he used to be. Noticeably slower for one, and serve return is different with this ball, his main weapon is barely a weapon now. 
But he will squeak his way to the final, and then...
HE is still the ONE who can beat Ma Long. 
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Stop reading those silly comments, skip.  Go read up the sections "E. CONFIRMATION PROCESS FOR QUOTA PLACES" and "F. REALLOCATION OF UNUSED QUOTA PLACES" of the qualification system.
If ZJK is not going, will the next best-ranked athlete (Fang Bo) receive the call , or will FZD go?
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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

I think July 18, 2016 is that when everything is carved in the stone.

You can't be serious.  You gotta truly understand the rules here.  Everything has been set in stone the moment ZJK was picked.  Why?  'cos there is no one else to replace him with.  The one next in line is Fang Bo.  What would be his ranking in August?

Quote REALLOCATION OF UNUSED QUALIFICATION PLACES SINGLES EVENTS

2. ITTF Olympic Singles Ranking List

Any unused quota place obtained through the ITTF Olympic Singles Ranking list will be reallocated to the next best-ranked eligible athlete of the same gender, not yet qualified, on the ITTF Olympic Singles Ranking list of May 2016.
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Originally posted by Egghead Egghead wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Stop reading those silly comments, skip.  Go read up the sections "E. CONFIRMATION PROCESS FOR QUOTA PLACES" and "F. REALLOCATION OF UNUSED QUOTA PLACES" of the qualification system.
If ZJK is not going, will the next best-ranked athlete (Fang Bo) receive the call , or will FZD go?
They keep track of who got rejected.  Ask yourself why?
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If fang bo went to the olympics and am long won over him I think his gold wouldn't be acknowledged.
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I voted Ma Long.  There oughta be a poll of whether or not you think Zhang Jike will even make it to the Finals.  When he wins I hear how in great form he is.  When he loses, I just hear oh... it's not an important tournament so he doesn't care.  He'll step up when it counts.  To some, he can do no wrong.  I just don't buy that he doesn't care until the Olympics.  There's no doubt he's a great player.. one of the greatest in the history of TT.  But *right now*, Xu Xin and FZD are clearly stronger against non-Chinese players than ZJK.
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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

I voted Ma Long.  There oughta be a poll of whether or not you think Zhang Jike will even make it to the Finals.  When he wins I hear how in great form he is.  When he loses, I just hear oh... it's not an important tournament so he doesn't care.  He'll step up when it counts.  To some, he can do no wrong.  I just don't buy that he doesn't care until the Olympics.  There's no doubt he's a great player.. one of the greatest in the history of TT.  But *right now*, Xu Xin and FZD are clearly stronger against non-Chinese players than ZJK.
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I agree with this statement 100%, very true indeed.
But *right now*, Xu Xin and FZD are clearly stronger against non-Chinese players than ZJK.
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The world top non-Chinese players in Olympics TT are happy with LGL's choice.  They now have a shot at the Silver Medal.
Against Fan Zhendong or Xu Xin, they have no shot.


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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

I voted Ma Long.  There oughta be a poll of whether or not you think Zhang Jike will even make it to the Finals.  When he wins I hear how in great form he is.  When he loses, I just hear oh... it's not an important tournament so he doesn't care.  He'll step up when it counts.  To some, he can do no wrong.  I just don't buy that he doesn't care until the Olympics.  There's no doubt he's a great player.. one of the greatest in the history of TT.  But *right now*, Xu Xin and FZD are clearly stronger against non-Chinese players than ZJK.
If zjk makes it to the finals, it will be a miracle. However, I think he can step up, and he can beat any non-Chinese player in a single match. The problem is that his condition (physical or mental) cannot sustain him through the whole tournament. 
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None of them. Both will have their medals robbed right after the final.
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Originally posted by TT newbie TT newbie wrote:

None of them. Both will have their medals robbed right after the final.

Why do you think that? Doping? Illegal equipment?
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Originally posted by Epid3xia Epid3xia wrote:

Originally posted by TT newbie TT newbie wrote:

None of them. Both will have their medals robbed right after the final.


Why do you think that? Doping? Illegal equipment?

No. Because it will happen in Rio.
I live in Brazil and believe me: the easiest way to die in Rio is take a walk in Rio Branco avenue, being surrounded by 4 kids between 10 and 15 and get stabbed 5 times.
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

It's like the brexit: "WE WERE JUST KIDDIIIIINNNG!"

And zjk will be replaced due to lower back problems...
There's always ibuprofen and steroid shots for back pain. Oops, the last one is doping. So it's ibuprofen for Zhang Jike...
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

It's like the brexit: "WE WERE JUST KIDDIIIIINNNG!"
And zjk will be replaced due to lower back problems...
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LGL had to rob 2 players' chance (successively) to play Olympics in order to get ZJK in.  He likes ZJK too much to change his mind.

(Fan Zhendong did not say anything, but don't think Fan is happy.)

Fan is still young but 4 years is a long long time, who knows what will happen to Fan's health and his playing level in 4 years ?????

(On women's side, don't think Liu Shiwen, ITTF world #1, is happy either.)


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Brazil is really risky right now. Almost as scary as Africa. Or South Side of Chicago. I wouldn't go to either of these. I heard police is protesting that they are not getting paid. I bet the athletes who have to go there are really nervous. Even without that it is third-world dirty and got that crazy zika sheet..
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Originally posted by Victor_the_cleaner Victor_the_cleaner wrote:

Brazil is really risky right now. Almost as scary as Africa. Or South Side of Chicago. I wouldn't go to either of these. I heard police is protesting that they are not getting paid. I bet the athletes who have to go there are really nervous. Even without that it is third-world dirty and got that crazy zika sheet..
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