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Mr. Elson from our club RCTTC (Tyler, TX) just won 2016 USATT Nationals U-1500 Adult round robin 1st place title.
He came out from over 60 players, got in a real serious fight with Chong Pang (Houston), but won at 5th game 11:9 in quarter final, after that, Mr. Elson Smooth sails to semi-final, then Final with 3:0 straight games, and just won the U-1500 title. 
He has not played TT for like 4 years since 2012 Nationals, then start practicing again for our recent tournament hosted by our club.   On behalf of the club, I congratulate on his success, and admires his dedication.

His recent tournament footage can be seen here (May 28, Rose city memorial Tournament)
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Good win ! This should inspire future participation by adults.

In the past, when there wasn't any age restricted rated events, usually the 2000 U events were won by fast rising trained kids. This year the 1200 and 1500 non age restricted events of the 2016 US Nationals we're won by the same kid.
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In America 4 out of 8 people will be in a semi final,  In other Countries there are more Veteran events but at Nationals no one has age restrictions in grades, but anything will do in USA to make people happy and to stop people winging Smile
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What do you mean 4 out of 8 people will be in semi final?
I know 8 good people, they were never reach semi final

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Anyone NOT knowing Mr. Elson, he has a LONG time playing at a way higher level than U1500. Physical issues dropped his level a lot, but anyone thinking Mr Elson is a typical USATT average club level player is in for a surprising and resounding defeat. You better come prepared to handle his serve and attack your high percentage chance decisively, his consistency and FH finish will make you pay for playing safe.
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The only thing that looks hard about his serve is that the ball don't leave his hand  16 cm high and he trows it back, not up...
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Originally posted by BH-Man BH-Man wrote:

Anyone NOT knowing Mr. Elson, he has a LONG time playing at a way higher level than U1500. Physical issues dropped his level a lot, but anyone thinking Mr Elson is a typical USATT average club level player is in for a surprising and resounding defeat. You better come prepared to handle his serve and attack your high percentage chance decisively, his consistency and FH finish will make you pay for playing safe.


Ditto (or is it 1+?). For many years he was well north of 1600. I have lost to him several times in tournaments. I respect him as a strong competitor was has overcome some obstacles. Congrats to him.
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Originally posted by rosecitytt rosecitytt wrote:

What do you mean 4 out of 8 people will be in semi final?
I know 8 good people, they were never reach semi final

746 participants 106 events 4 in semis is 106 x 4 = 424 medals lol less some events with 3 or less players so around 50 % ratio, naturally some people will go home with 2/4/6/7 medals and many more with 0,
 naturally entering events where less participants are playing like older age groups and sandpaper type events there is more of a chance to get there
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Originally posted by smackman smackman wrote:

Originally posted by rosecitytt rosecitytt wrote:

What do you mean 4 out of 8 people will be in semi final?
I know 8 good people, they were never reach semi final

746 participants 106 events 4 in semis is 106 x 4 = 424 medals lol less some events with 3 or less players so around 50 % ratio, naturally some people will go home with 2/4/6/7 medals and many more with 0,
 naturally entering events where less participants are playing like older age groups and sandpaper type events there is more of a chance to get there


Good marketing approach if you're trying to promote the sport. Then when players with medals go home and lose to players in their local club, those winners are inspired and proud too.
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Originally posted by smackman smackman wrote:

Originally posted by rosecitytt rosecitytt wrote:

What do you mean 4 out of 8 people will be in semi final?
I know 8 good people, they were never reach semi final

746 participants 106 events 4 in semis is 106 x 4 = 424 medals lol less some events with 3 or less players so around 50 % ratio, naturally some people will go home with 2/4/6/7 medals and many more with 0,
 naturally entering events where less participants are playing like older age groups and sandpaper type events there is more of a chance to get there
All doubles events have 8 in semis.

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I played Mr Elston in the U1700 playoff's.  I was down 7-4 in the 5th and ran off 7 straight points.  He is a very good player.  (nice guy also)


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How old and what rubbers with or without sponge is he using ?


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Originally posted by rosecitytt rosecitytt wrote:

Mr. Elson from our club RCTTC (Tyler, TX) just won 2016 USATT Nationals U-1500 Adult round robin 1st place title.
He came out from over 60 players, got in a real serious fight with Chong Pang (Houston), but won at 5th game 11:9 in quarter final, after that, Mr. Elson Smooth sails to semi-final, then Final with 3:0 straight games, and just won the U-1500 title. 
He has not played TT for like 4 years since 2012 Nationals, then start practicing again for our recent tournament hosted by our club.   On behalf of the club, I congratulate on his success, and admires his dedication.

His recent tournament footage can be seen here (May 28, Rose city memorial Tournament)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59cbGYeaJcg




Winning any event in nationals is a great achievement and usually signifies a level of at least 200 points about the threshold for that event.  So Mr. Elson certainly deserves congratulations.

For those who want to nitpick: it appears he uses LP on the backhand.  For any even under 1600 (or maybe even 1700), long pip blocking is a huge advantage.  It's not enough to guarantee winning, but it sure helps eliminate a lot of the competition.  

In fact, it would be interesting to know what percentage of semifinalists are LP players for all events at U1500 and below, and then compare that to the percentage of all players under 1500 using LP.  I would guess that the percentage for semifinalists is probably something like 40-50%, while the percentage for all players is more like 10%.
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Congrats!

Agree on the 200+ points to win.  Lost in the 8ths on U1400 to winner, tough loss.
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I know both players who played in the U1600 final several years ago. Their ratings were accurate. Both used double inverted. I hit with one of them every once in a while, his rating is still about the same today.

On his way to the finals he told me half the players he beat were "old coots with pips".
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I coach some seniors and advise them to use anti or long pips to slow the game down. A person still has to learn how to use the junk rubber effectively to compete.
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Originally posted by qpskfec qpskfec wrote:

I know both players who played in the U1600 final several years ago. Their ratings were accurate. Both used double inverted. I hit with one of them every once in a while, his rating is still about the same today.

On his way to the finals he told me half the players he beat were "old coots with pips".

I think it was the year I made it to the semi-finals of the U-1900 that I had a funny experience with an "old coot" with pips.  At the start of the match, we met and he showed me his racket.  One side had inverted.  Then with a grin, he turned his blade over to show me the other side.  It was covered with Dr. Evil. 

Maybe I imagined it, but there seemed to be a smugness in his grin like he'd just sprung some nefarious or at least troublesome secret weapon on me.  So I rather enjoyed watching his grin fade when I showed him my hardbat . . . shod with Dr. Evil on BOTH sides.  ;^)
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Originally posted by wturber wturber wrote:

Originally posted by qpskfec qpskfec wrote:

I know both players who played in the U1600 final several years ago. Their ratings were accurate. Both used double inverted. I hit with one of them every once in a while, his rating is still about the same today.

On his way to the finals he told me half the players he beat were "old coots with pips".

I think it was the year I made it to the semi-finals of the U-1900 that I had a funny experience with an "old coot" with pips.  At the start of the match, we met and he showed me his racket.  One side had inverted.  Then with a grin, he turned his blade over to show me the other side.  It was covered with Dr. Evil. 

Maybe I imagined it, but there seemed to be a smugness in his grin like he'd just sprung some nefarious or at least troublesome secret weapon on me.  So I rather enjoyed watching his grin fade when I showed him my hardbat . . . shod with Dr. Evil on BOTH sides.  ;^)


LOL, love it.


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Originally posted by wturber wturber wrote:

Originally posted by qpskfec qpskfec wrote:

I know both players who played in the U1600 final several years ago. Their ratings were accurate. Both used double inverted. I hit with one of them every once in a while, his rating is still about the same today.

On his way to the finals he told me half the players he beat were "old coots with pips".


I think it was the year I made it to the semi-finals of the U-1900 that I had a funny experience with an "old coot" with pips.  At the start of the match, we met and he showed me his racket.  One side had inverted.  Then with a grin, he turned his blade over to show me the other side.  It was covered with Dr. Evil. 

Maybe I imagined it, but there seemed to be a smugness in his grin like he'd just sprung some nefarious or at least troublesome secret weapon on me.  So I rather enjoyed watching his grin fade when I showed him my hardbat . . . shod with Dr. Evil on BOTH sides.  ;^)


I regularly play against pip players and play them myself for fun even though I normally play double inverted.

In one league match my opponent was a penholder with LP BH. After a few points she used the LP. I smacked the crap out of the ball and she never used the LP again. I love playing against lazy LP players who counting on getting cheap points. Good LP players can be a real challenge.
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Originally posted by wturber wturber wrote:

Originally posted by qpskfec qpskfec wrote:

I know both players who played in the U1600 final several years ago. Their ratings were accurate. Both used double inverted. I hit with one of them every once in a while, his rating is still about the same today.

On his way to the finals he told me half the players he beat were "old coots with pips".

I think it was the year I made it to the semi-finals of the U-1900 that I had a funny experience with an "old coot" with pips.  At the start of the match, we met and he showed me his racket.  One side had inverted.  Then with a grin, he turned his blade over to show me the other side.  It was covered with Dr. Evil. 

Maybe I imagined it, but there seemed to be a smugness in his grin like he'd just sprung some nefarious or at least troublesome secret weapon on me.  So I rather enjoyed watching his grin fade when I showed him my hardbat . . . shod with Dr. Evil on BOTH sides.  ;^)

I bet that was awesome!
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I bet that was awesome!

It was was just kind of funny.  First, because to begin with I don't think of Dr. Evil as being particularly confusing "junk" rubber.  That he thought it was seemed amusing to me.  But mostly because of the obvious surprise/irony.
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WOW, what a "It's priceless" moment, both sides Dr. Evil!! !!!

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Originally posted by LUCKYLOOP LUCKYLOOP wrote:

How old and what rubbers with or without sponge is he using ?

Just played with a friend of Mr. Elston in another club last week, he mentioned Mr. Elston helped him set up his paddle, which is a fast and very light blade with T05 on the forehand and Dr. Neubauer OX on the BH.
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Everyone seemed to miss that Mr. Elston, accomplished  restaurateur, had a secret weapon! Wasn't that well known coach, and Mr. Elston's old friend, Scott Ryan giving him advice? With him in his corner how could he lose?
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I think I'm finally beginning to understand the appeal of having events at the US Nationals based on ratings.  Table tennis players who really aren't very good - and let's be honest, 1500 is not very good - can beat some other not very good players and become famous! 
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Originally posted by Tassie52 Tassie52 wrote:

I think I'm finally beginning to understand the appeal of having events at the US Nationals based on ratings.  Table tennis players who really aren't very good - and let's be honest, 1500 is not very good - can beat some other not very good players and become famous! 


The famous group is very, very small.  Really small.  Just a few people.  Winning at most table tennis tournaments is more a measure of growth (or decline) than anything else.
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