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    Posted: 09/06/2016 at 12:57pm
Hello gyus,i gave a try to spectol blue 1.7-1.9 as i was using Spectol 21...
I wanted to try blue instead of red cause it is closer to 21...red produces more spin and less deception..
So, blue was spinnier than 21 and has better control on blocking and hitting..the sponge is harder than 21..the thing is that the deception is minimum!!was very easy for the opponent to play against..it was like an inverted rubber..So i stayed to 21!!
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Maybe you might prefer red? Since red is softer than blue it will be closer to 21. It will still have more spin than 21 but at least it will be faster.
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malin, have you played with the Victas pips (101, 102), how do they compare to spectol 21 and blue if you may? Thanks.
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yea faster ones will have less deception. you'd play with it as an attacker and to be able to hit through spin. for deception, i found the mixed short and med pip rubbers a PITA to play vs.

but i've also played vs SP with 2.1 sponge and it was still quite heavy at times
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red = 40°
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hmmm...haven't heard about Spectol Blue. Will have to look into this.
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Spectol Blue and Red just came out a few months ago.  According to the ads, Spectol Blue harder sponge and faster.  Spectol Red has softer sponge and has more spin comparing to Spectol Blue.

When we talk about short pips, there is NO "deception".  To me, short pips only produce flat (dead) balls.  To me, only medium pips and long pips can give some deceptions, e.g. wobble balls or reversed spins.  Yes, short pips can do some of these, but not enough to talk about them.

I haven't used the Blue or the Red version, but I have use the regular Spectol and Spectol 21.  I would say that TSP make some changes for the plastic ball.  So, if you like the regular Spetol, then you can try Spectol Blue.  If you like Spectol 21 like myself, then you can try Spectol Red.  These are my opinions.

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Just checked tabletennisstore.us and the Spectol Blue and red only come in 1.5 or 2.0 thickness. They don't have 1.8. I have just a bit more control playing with 1.8, and it gives my opponents just a bit more trouble.
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Originally posted by AcudaDave AcudaDave wrote:

Just checked tabletennisstore.us and the Spectol Blue and red only come in 1.5 or 2.0 thickness. They don't have 1.8. I have just a bit more control playing with 1.8, and it gives my opponents just a bit more trouble.


What version gives trouble red or blue?
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Originally posted by AcudaDave AcudaDave wrote:

Just checked tabletennisstore.us and the Spectol Blue and red only come in 1.5 or 2.0 thickness. They don't have 1.8. I have just a bit more control playing with 1.8, and it gives my opponents just a bit more trouble.


check tt-japan. they have 1.7-1.9
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How it's TSP Super Spin Pips compared with Spectol and Spectol 21?
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My spectol red is 1.8mm. Packaging shows thickness to be the same as other TSP SP rubbers..
1.7-1.9mm, 2.15mm. There is no 2.0 mm



Edited by dual700 - 09/14/2016 at 10:42am
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Just glued a sheet of red 1.7-1.9 mm, will try it tomorrow :)
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Originally posted by 7homuz 7homuz wrote:

Just glued a sheet of red 1.7-1.9 mm, will try it tomorrow :)


Any impresions about this pip? Sink and control?
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Hi BBKON, 
I do have some impressions of the Spectol RED, had a 3 hour training session with it on Friday, bear in mind I'm an inverted player who only recently started testing out pips on BH. My best setup right now is T05 FH with Acuda S2 2.0 BH. I would say my rating is approx 1900-2000 at the moment, fluctuating a bit due to test of different BH rubbers.

I'll compare it to my Acuda S2 on BH. I don't have much pips experience so take it worth a grain of salt.
The SR(spectol red) feels great on blocks, it doesn't have as much 'click' as I expected. Acuda S2 2.0 really suited me because I mostly play close to the table and only drop back if pushed hard, taking bh shots off the bounce, either blocking/punching with placement and speed (not much spin), or hitting through loops if it's a tad high and I had it set up well (i.e. long bottom spin serve to bh side, force opponent to step around, loop not too fast due to heavy backspin, and hit through that). Occasionally I flip the serves on bh, and very rarely do I open up from the bh side. Actually, on paper it sounds like a great medium pips/short pips bh game, which is why i have been tempted to try out different pips lately. Make it easier for myself, and give my opponents a tad harder time with slightly unorthodox returns (well... unorthodox compared to what I was using).

 Back on track, the blocking was good. Not *great*, but I think it felt better than the AS2 when I was in position. Hitting through loops is a breeze, and I was able to hit *drive?* through bottom spin with moderate success as well after only a short time with it. Flips were slower, I couldn't run through the ball on top of the table like inverted (duh!) so while the initial speed is fairly close (I'd still say the AS2 was faster for this particular shot), the second speed after the bounce was very different, and with only minimal spin relative to the AS2 it was easy for the opponent to counter effectively.

I was not able to do opening loops with it on bottomspin, had to hit/drive through the ball.

Overall it was quite hard to make deceptive shots, occasionally I would get a slightly dead ball but it was still easily countered. The dead balls coming off my 563 (sponged) was much more difficult to counter. 

I can see that it's useful for someone who likes to hit everything close to the table, for me it wasn't the ticket. The margin of error on SP is too low for high stress situations, and I could pretty much do everything it gave me plus some with my AS2 2.0.

On the other hand, I then tried a long pips CK531A with thin sponge, and it was the bomb. Blocks and hits were fantastic with lots of sink and some reversal, serve return was very agile, quick, and very wobbly. I'm going to be spending more time with that instead to see how it can fit into my game. If all else fails I'll just go back to my trust AS2 2.0 :)

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Which Spectol has the most control and hits best through spin with the new poly ball?
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they both hit through spin well. 
blue should have more control as its harder, but IMO that may make it a little less forgiving.
I have used red a lot and its very fast and bouncy

i would be interested to here from someone who has used both
i would like to know if blue gives a harder ball to deal with flatter more sink

it is definitely a very tricky pimple if your playing a very spinny player, they get quite disturbed by it, but i guess all short pimples have this affect

it has been suggested it pay a little like mid pimples,
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Is the Spectol line still regarded as the best? Is the old Spectol still viable in this new era?
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