Tenergy Rubber for Backhand?

Does anyone know for certain where MX-P is made?  Neither the packaging nor the rubber top sheet indicate the place of manufacture or design.  And the dedicated Tibhar Evolution site says nothing.  That's very odd considering everything else clearly shows Made in Germany, Made in Japan, or Made in China.  Most manufacturers proudly display in their rubber descriptions who was involved in the design (example:  Stiga Genesis - Japan/Sweden/China, or Cornilleau Target Pro GT-M43 - France-Michelin/Germany-ESN).  It seems hidden on purpose.  

onehander wrote: Does anyone know for certain where MX-P is made?  Neither the packaging nor the rubber top sheet indicate the place of manufacture or design.  And the dedicated Tibhar Evolution site says nothing.  That's very odd considering everything else clearly shows Made in Germany, Made in Japan, or Made in China.  Most manufacturers proudly display in their rubber descriptions who was involved in the design (example:  Stiga Genesis - Japan/Sweden/China, or Cornilleau Target Pro GT-M43 - France-Michelin/Germany-ESN).  It seems hidden on purpose.

Definitely heavy. I haven't weighed it but it feels to me like it might weigh more than Tenergy.

I did 12 months of intense EJing. I tried every Tenergy on my BH, plus nearly 10 of the most popular other brands. 

By brand:
Butterfly Tenergy 25 fx
Tibhar Evolution MX-P
They have the softness to block and counter yet the grip to loop and flick.

Do you try 1.7mm ?

interact215 wrote: I did 12 months of intense EJing. I tried every Tenergy on my BH, plus nearly 10 of the most popular other brands.  The one I've chosen and have been using for nearly 6 months is Tenergy 25-FX (1.9). It's a monster for blocking, both close and off the table. But the main reason I use it on BH is when you use good brushing technique, it has the tightest arc of any Tenergy (i.e. the ball gets up and down most efficiently). For me it makes ripping opening loops off of long pushes loaded with backspin not very difficult at all. Both the superior blocking and tight arc when brushing well are clearly explained in Butterfly's own video about Tenergy technology. T25 is designed for blocking and play close to the table, unlike the other 3 Tenergies. I chose the FX over standard just because it's more forgiving in all aspects of play, which I need at my intermediate rating. Btw, I use a very fast, hard blade, the new Xiom Vega Tour. T05-FX on FH. Results may vary :)

 What would you describe as "most efficiently"? Are you saying that it was Tenergy´s easiest rubber for lifting an underspin stroke, for example? Or are you saying that the type of arc 25FX  produces is more dangerous to your rivals, comparing to others Tenergies?
If you are talking about the latter, I would think that, in theory, a Tenergy that produces a higher arc (like O5) should be more dangerous than a Tenergy that produces a lower arc (like 25FX), because  (all things being equal) a higher arc ball that bounces near the end line may surprise your opponent, who would think that the ball has no time to go down into the table from its high trajectory. Does it make sense?

And taking advantage of your EJing, may I ask you how you handled the strong bounciness of Tenergies? You liked it or you made a "compromise" with it, something that you have to live with, because "it comes with the territory"? (In fact, my experience is with 05, but I guess that the strong bounciness extends to all types of Tenergies). That bounciness can be a blessing or a curse...

Makelele wrote: interact215 wrote: I did 12 months of intense EJing. I tried every Tenergy on my BH, plus nearly 10 of the most popular other brands.  The one I've chosen and have been using for nearly 6 months is Tenergy 25-FX (1.9). It's a monster for blocking, both close and off the table. But the main reason I use it on BH is when you use good brushing technique, it has the tightest arc of any Tenergy (i.e. the ball gets up and down most efficiently). For me it makes ripping opening loops off of long pushes loaded with backspin not very difficult at all. Both the superior blocking and tight arc when brushing well are clearly explained in Butterfly's own video about Tenergy technology. T25 is designed for blocking and play close to the table, unlike the other 3 Tenergies. I chose the FX over standard just because it's more forgiving in all aspects of play, which I need at my intermediate rating. Btw, I use a very fast, hard blade, the new Xiom Vega Tour. T05-FX on FH. Results may vary :)  What would you describe as "most efficiently"? Are you saying that it was Tenergy´s easiest rubber for lifting an underspin stroke, for example? Or are you saying that the type of arc 25FX  produces is more dangerous to your rivals, comparing to others Tenergies? If you are talking about the latter, I would think that, in theory, a Tenergy that produces a higher arc (like O5) should be more dangerous than a Tenergy that produces a lower arc (like 25FX), because  (all things being equal) a higher arc ball that bounces near the end line may surprise your opponent, who would think that the ball has no time to go down into the table from its high trajectory. Does it make sense? And taking advantage of your EJing, may I ask you how you handled the strong bounciness of Tenergies? You liked it or you made a "compromise" with it, something that you have to live with, because "it comes with the territory"? (In fact, my experience is with 05, but I guess that the strong bounciness extends to all types of Tenergies). That bounciness can be a blessing or a curse...

Edited by SmackDAT - 10/28/2016 at 3:30pm