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    Posted: 01/05/2017 at 4:44pm
My non-exhaustive search didn't return any threads created for this, which should have been posted last year.

Ladies and gentlemen. Below I present to you the six-part documentary series - Table Tennis in China.

Open your eyes to the evolution of ghetto table tennis.

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Part 1 gives a general background of table tennis in China. Everything started when the first ten sets of table tennis equipment were brought back from Japan by a Shanghai office supply store owner in the early 1900s. The historical and political significance of table tennis on China is briefly discussed. A substantial amount of screen time is spent on the hometown of Ma Long, Li Xiaoxia and Guo Yue - 鞍山(Anshan). A variant form of table tennis for the blind(invented by Japanese) is also touched upon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5P9hsmL8mk


Part 2 delves into the state program of China, from a playerbase of 100 million to a national team made up of roughly a few tens. It follows a girl(yup, a girl) who recently got admitted into the Luneng table tennis club, largely in part because she is a penholder. It is mentioned the number of players sent by parents for training is on decline across the country in recent years, especially girls. Her mom decided to send her in to try out for a year or two. In case she doesn't make it, she can just go back to school. Not the case for the second girl. Her dad wants her to become a World Champion. He even went the extra mile by quitting his job to train her. He was from Anshan but decided to take her to Luneng in fear of disapproval from the family. His wish is for her to raise the five-star flag. In case she doesn't, he has no regret as he has given his all. At the Luneng Tsingtao training base, getting chewed out is a daily routine. Zhang Chuanming, ZJK's dad, is a coach there. His current focus is on an eleven-year-old boy who is ahead of the curve in his age group. He can't stress enough on fundamentals, comparing it to the building block of a skyscraper. Machismo is his motto. After the commerical break, the focus turns to the harsh reality faced by their parents - natural selection. ZCM sums it up in one sentence - the 20-30 people on the national team is there only to serve the 3-4 elites. The last segment is on the humongous training camp in which the national B team is pitted against provincial players from across the country, where there is a chance for them to get promoted/demoted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pDtEn9JoSI


Part 3 follows the CTTSL, in particular the Guangdong Chen Jing Table Tennis Club, or Chen Jing Club in short, of which Ovtcharov was a member. Chen Jing, former World and Olympic Singles Champion, offered room and board for him and his wife for the entire duration of their stay. CJ revealed it cost a lot to hire him, but was worth it. It is said CJ, out of passion, bought out the club in 2013 and paid from her own pocket. People around her were shocked upon learning it, as they thought CTTSL was far from what it was meant to be after all these years. As the team was assembled haphazardly, they faced great difficulties for that season. Every non-playing member of the club was a rookie in the CTTSL. It turns out the CNT players enjoy the league season more than anything, calling it the "happy hour." It is not all fun though, as travelling from place to place puts a great burden on their bodies. In the case of CJ Club, the situation was far worse as the club did not have its own base. The players met up and trained together only if matches were scheduled very closely together. CJ even admitted the club did not receive any sponsorship due to time constraint. LGL expressed the desire to improve the business model, that while it is far from the level of soccer, basketball, or volleyball, it should still have its own market. It should cultivate its own loyal fans. On those two points, LGL feels that it can be done better. For CJ Club, entourage does not exist in the vocabulary. In contrast, Luneng Club, established in 2001 and headquartered in Shandong Jinan, owns a sizable training base, with training conditions rivaling that of the CNT. Inside the building, the temp and relative humidity are constantly kept at 27 degrees Celsius and 53%. The head coach, Yin Xiao, was the master of LGL, KLH, and ZJK. Luneng was the first professional table tennis club in China, and ZJK lived in their dorm for 7-8 years. Luneng aims to become a centennial club and build its own echelon. The headquarter in Jinan, training base in Tsingtao, and school in Weifang take in members of different age segment, establishing its own in-house rank. FB and the poor Song Hongyuan got some screen time in the last segment of the program.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX2Vfk1BOlo


Part 4 is essentially a rehash of a previous program - The Secrets of CNT. MLfan did a fabulous translation for it, so head over if you're interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mNyBH9YP0w


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38sw2E6a5Mw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRDBqbQijrE



On Bilibili:
http://www.bilibili.com/video/av4197123/


Watch in 1080p on Bilibili.

It should automatically jump to the next episode at the end of the current run.

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To the left of the balloon icon you can select the quality, "超清" being the highest.

Edited by zeio - 01/06/2017 at 1:38am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g
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+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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anyone could tell what they we're talking about those weird blades at 17:40 ?
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The old man brought his creation to the meetup for people to try. The other old man told him his impressions, saying that the blade plays OK on the backhand, and where to improve, particularly in the grip area, where the index finger locks onto, is too sharp, that it'd be better if there is a piece of rubber covering there. As it is right now, he can't swing hard because it hurts.

Edited by zeio - 01/05/2017 at 5:48pm
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g
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Added Youtube source.
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g
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thank you very much
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Added summary for Part 1 and 2.
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g
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thank you for the video Smile

haha, that is the same dog in one of the ZJK training videos.
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Added summary for Part 3 and 4.
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g
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why they play without shirts? too hot?
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1. To increase the flow of Qi.

2. Macho.
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+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

1. To increase the flow of Qi.

2. Macho.


really? wow! I was sure no money for air conditioner :)
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They have A/C there. It can be spotted throughout the videos. You'd know if you have visited China and seen one. It's different from the ones in the states or the rest of the world.

Edited by zeio - 01/06/2017 at 5:52pm
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g
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Nice job, zeio, thank you.
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Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

why they play without shirts? too hot?
 
It's so that I can a make a parody video (such as the Ma Lin serve).
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Maybe they're playing strip pong, heavy.  Lose a point, take off an item of clothing.  

Strip pong was a lot more fun when played by both sexes and the games were to 21.
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I am very curious what Song Hongyuan is saying in Part 3 and what his current situation is.  Zeio or someone else, could you help out?
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Originally posted by Fidelio Fidelio wrote:

I am very curious what Song Hongyuan is saying in Part 3 and what his current situation is.  Zeio or someone else, could you help out?

Song Hongyuan was removed from the chinese national team becos he broke some rules. 
After that he spent most of his time cooped up in his room playing games or training by himself. Although he signed to join a table tennis club, he never had the chance to play. He has been training hard so that one day if he had the chance to play, he wanted to gain the attention of the national team coaches once more. During matches in the chinese superleague, he could only be present as a spectator but not a player. 

Its actually quite sad Cry
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Narrator(shortened to N hereafter): Song Hongyuan, once a CNT prospect, was demoted by the head coach(TL's note: LGL?) to the Shangdong provincial team after a violation of team rules in early 2013.

FB: I'm asking you. Are you going? You're staying at my place every day.
Song: I'm not going. I'm playing games here.
FB: Just go already. Play some good games. You still have a chance. Such a good chance to hone your skills. You're just neeting at my place like this every day.

N: Under the help of coach(es), Song struck up a contract with Guangdong Chen Jing Club, but has been benched ever since.

Song: Who'd have ever thought to be met with something like this. From signing the contract till now, it's been two months. It's quite frustrating. It affects my training. I meant to put in the work to my training.

N: Not only does he not have the chance to step on the court, but Song has also never participated in the team training. It's only when the Guangdong Chen Jing club comes over to Jinan for an away game, can he watch over as a bystander on the bleacher(TL's note: What's worse than this?).

Song: I called once when not chosen for the lineup, I called again the second time, and the answer was to wait for a few matches. This is tiring. You know? The desire to go train dies down as time goes by.

Wang Fei(club coach): Here at Luneng the training condition is very good. It's true there is a money issue. As of this moment, our chairman Chen Jing has been shouldering the burden of the club. In fact, we have not secured any sponsorship before the season started. We're doing everything to cut down on cost, as much as possible.

Song: The thing now is to get on the court. Not for the money, but for the chance to play.

N: This has been the third time Song was sent back to the provincial team. Originally, he hoped to use this league season to show his worth to regain the attention of the national team coaches and to find his way back to the national team. But now, the prospect looks very dim.

Edited by zeio - 02/21/2017 at 7:51am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g
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