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    Posted: 01/08/2017 at 5:19am
Here we go again.  Another new equipment thread to mark the passing of time as we creep closer towards our eventual death.  Happy new year!

Rubber

Andro Rasanter V42
Andro Rasanter V47
Andro Rasanter R37
Andro Rasanter R42
Andro Rasanter R47
Andro Rasanter R50

Butterfly Rozena

Cornilleau Drive Intense
Cornilleau Pilot Pulse
Cornilleau Start'UP Evo

DHS Gold Arc 5 (ESN!)
DHS Gold Arc 8 (ESN!)

Donic Blue Storm Z1
Donic Blue Storm Z2
Donic Blue Storm Z3

Gewo Hype KR Pro 47.5 (pink sponge)
Gewo Proton Neo 475

ITC Powercell P5

Joola Axxess
Joola CWX (lp)
Joola Golden Tango
Joola Rhyzer 48
Joola Rhyzer 43

Mizuno GF R
Mizuno Q3

Nexy Karis H

Nittaku Factive (ESN)

Sanwei A+ Semi-sticky
Sanwei T88-Taiji Plus
Sanwei T88-Taiji 2017
Sanwei Target Europe 40+ Turbo

Tibhar Aurus Prime
Tibhar Aurus Select
Tibhar Speedy Soft XD (sp)

TSP Spinpips Blue
TSP Spinpips Red
TSP Ventus Basic

Xiom Omega VII Euro
Xiom Omega VII Pro
Xiom Vega Intro (ESN)

Yasaka Valmo
Yasaka Rigan

Yinhe (Galaxy) Big Dipper 2

Blades

Arbalest Horsa
Arbalest Stock (looks a lot like a Keyshot Light copy)
Arbalest Thor 6.0

Butterfly SK7 Classic
Butterfly SK Carbon

Cornilleau Hugo Calderano Foco Off+, 5-ply, 85g
Cornilleau Hugo Calderano Foco Off-, 5-ply, 85g
Cornilleau Simon Gauzy Quest OFF (5 ply)
Cornilleau Simon Gauzy Quest ALL+ (5 ply)

Darker Liberta Willow

DHS Hurricane 301
DHS Power G5 (PG-5)

Donic Balsa Carbo Fleeze
Donic Balsa Carbofibre

Gewo Alexander Waluch (Made in Germany)
Gewo Königsklasse Off 5 (Made in Germany)
Gewo Königsklasse Karbon Seiben (Made in Germany)

Joola Nobilis Pro C
Joola Solja Off-
Joola Solja Off+
Joola Zelebro Pro C

Juic Perseus 5ply, OFF-
Juic Cabriolet I-NP (5w+2carbon), OFF
Juic Cabriolet F (5w+2c), OFF+

Mizuno Fortius FT5
Mizuno Fortius FT Light
Mizuno Fortius FT Ver.D

Nexy Cakra
Nexy Arche

Nittaku Ataras
Nittaku Bloodwood
Nittaku Ma Long 7
Nittaku Negia D
Nittaku Revofusion MF C
Nittaku Revofusion MF J
Nittaku S-series S-7
Nittaku S-series S-CZ
Nittaku S-series S-5  
Nittaku Septear Carbon
Nittaku WG-5
Nittaku WG-Carbon
Nittaku Winglight

Sanwei Fextra
Sanwei Dynamo
Sanwei A9

Soulspin Roots 8 Zylon Carbon
Soulspin Roots 9 Zylon Carbon Speed
Soulspin Roots 7 Defensive Control 7

Stiga Arctic Wood

Tibhar Cedric Nuytinck
Tibhar Kinetic Speed

TSP Complite W
TSP Euro Power Off
TSP Euro Feeling Off-
TSP Euro Classic All+
TSP Gaia II
TSP Japiel II
TSP Multu II

Victas Firefall HC
Victas Koki Niwa
Victas Yuto Muramatsu

Xiom Feel AX
Xiom Feel HX
Xiom Feel HX Pro
Xiom Feel S7
Xiom Feel SX
Xiom Feel ZXI
Xiom Feel ZXII
Xiom Feel ZXIII
Xiom Musa Euro
Xiom Musa Asia
Xiom Zeta Allround

Yasaka Alnade
Yasaka Sweden Guardian

Yinhe M 102
Yinhe M 202
Yinhe M 901
Yinhe PLC
Yinhe Balsa 10
Yinhe Balsa 9
Yinhe Def 9
Yinhe Def 10
Yinhe Def 11


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This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated.
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Andy, is there a physically smaller version of the Victas offensive blade?
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http://imgur.com/a/G0FfA

I know it was announced last year, but this is the only image of Hammond Power out there as far as I am aware. Haven't seen anything about on Nittaku's website.

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If needing a goat, cry for a bull.

Those speedy rubbers are wrecking the game.
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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Here we go again.  Another new equipment thread to mark the passing of time as we creep closer towards our eventual death.  Happy new year!

Rubber

Yasaka Valmo
Yasaka Rigan


Blades

Victas Firefall HC
Victas Koki Niwa
Victas Yuto Muramatsu

Yasaka Alnade

Any link to these Victas Blades??
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I couldn't find anything on the Victas blades, but I did find that the Yasaka Alnade seems to be a Viscaria clone (koto ALC from the catalogue). I also found out that they managed to sign Liang Jingkun.

Generally, it would be great to give links along with the new items names.

Yasaka 2017 catalogue
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Victas blades are on Yu's blog:

http://world-tt.com/blog/yu/
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The Victas Koki Niwa comes with 2 layers of fleece carbon, on top of 2 layers of aramid carbon, making it (the 1st ever?) 5+2+2 blade. The price tag is also nothing short of shocking, for a Made-in-China model.
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g
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Far from the first, most attacking blades by Victas have this composition, and so do the Xiom Quad blades (V1, Zetro).

The Koki Niwa blade seems to be a thicker, faster version of the Quartet AFC he's been using since his move to Victas. It's 5.7mm up from 5.5mm.
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g
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Firefall HC.
Those ridiculus BEE-HIVE weaving pattern interest me.

Maybe it is shorted for Hive Carbon ???
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Sponge of Hammond Power ?

https://www.facebook.com/100x100PingPong/photos/pb.673690612646317.-2207520000.1481860536./1530330320315671/?type=3
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TSP Ventus Basic

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TSP Gaia II
TSP Japiel II
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Nittaku Septear Carbon
Life is too short for defensive play.

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Originally posted by Ray Ray wrote:

Blade:

Nittaku Septear Carbon


Wow. That just turned me on
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Sadly, no cpen version of septear carbon yet
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Hmmm.  Thornton's have posted on facebook that they have Stiga Mantra in stock.  The picture shows the topsheet and there is a resemblance to Karis (with the visible pips making lines).


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Originally posted by Tinykin Tinykin wrote:

Andy, is there a physically smaller version of the Victas offensive blade?

Sorry Mr K, I've only just seen this!

Not that I know of, but it's all-wood so just take it to your mad scientist lab and chop bits off it.
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Originally posted by MAR_PL MAR_PL wrote:

Nittaku S-series S-7     http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/nittaku-s-series-s-7
Nittaku S-series S-CZ   http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/nittaku-s-series-s-cz
Nittaku S-series S-5     http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/nittaku-s-series-s-5

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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Hmmm.  Thornton's have posted on facebook that they have Stiga Mantra in stock.  The picture shows the topsheet and there is a resemblance to Karis (with the visible pips making lines).




It's funny how the name "mantra" sound so lame when you're from india.
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Nice but not made in Japan and not inexpensive. I would save my money for better blades with more soul. The blades were made by soulspin. The quality of the blades itself are acceptable but they do not have the knowhow and intuition of doing blades with good handle constructions. Just mass merchandise like most of them. I thought they were building blades for your own needs. I wanted to order some time ago a special blade. All they said was, we can't build it like you want- you have to take our meassurements-and all that stuff for over 100 - 200 euro ? That is to me not really serious. Just taking money for nothing special. I'd rather buy a classical butterfly blade which has a real foundation.
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Originally posted by ttspirit ttspirit wrote:

Nice but not made in Japan and not inexpensive. I would save my money for better blades with more soul. The blades were made by soulspin. The quality of the blades itself are acceptable but they do not have the knowhow and intuition of doing blades with good handle constructions. Just mass merchandise like most of them. I thought they were building blades for your own needs. I wanted to order some time ago a special blade. All they said was, we can't build it like you want- you have to take our meassurements-and all that stuff for over 100 - 200 euro ? That is to me not really serious. Just taking money for nothing special. I'd rather buy a classical butterfly blade which has a real foundation.

You are obsessed, but I'll humor you.

Have you used the S-series?
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Mantra and karia are both made by daiki in japan.
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Interesting information Yogi. 

Armed with that information, I have learned they make rubber for lots of people.  Stiga, some Tibhar, and many others.  Apparently they can make thousands of different variations and they work with each individual company to come up with a rubber design. 

http://daikirubber.jp/

https://www.facebook.com/daikirubber/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE

From Google translations of Japanese from their Facebook page, I think it says that Daiki makes Airoc, calibra, vari spin, Vario, Agrit, and Rize, and also that they have been working with "a company from Korea", which I assume is Nexy.  Clearly, they can make a lot of different rubbers.  One thing I take from this is that two rubbers made by this company may be very different from each other.  So Mantra could well be quite different from Karis -- or it could be somewhat similar. 

For now I am happy with Karis, so will wait for other more EJ minded people to compare.
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I have thought that something like this is happening many years now. And that's why when I was crazy EJ, I had been came through the same rubbers from different brands. But I got really suspicious when stiga brought out airoc, then I saw bluefire and lastly....I saw from photos the rubber of tsp which is made in japan, regalis, which is exactly the same like the stiga airocs. But I cannot judge from photos, I say about regalis only because of what I saw in photos.
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Originally posted by *_strataras_* *_strataras_* wrote:

I have thought that something like this is happening many years now. And that's why when I was crazy EJ, I had been came through the same rubbers from different brands. But I got really suspicious when stiga brought out airoc, then I saw bluefire and lastly....I saw from photos the rubber of tsp which is made in japan, regalis, which is exactly the same like the stiga airocs. But I cannot judge from photos, I say about regalis only because of what I saw in photos.

Bluefire, no - that's 100% ESN.  But Airoc, Regalis, Alhelg (the original one, not the recent ones with the chinese sponges - not sure about those), Samba 19/27, ITC Powercell, Karis - yes.  All variations on a theme.
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Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Originally posted by *_strataras_* *_strataras_* wrote:

I have thought that something like this is happening many years now. And that's why when I was crazy EJ, I had been came through the same rubbers from different brands. But I got really suspicious when stiga brought out airoc, then I saw bluefire and lastly....I saw from photos the rubber of tsp which is made in japan, regalis, which is exactly the same like the stiga airocs. But I cannot judge from photos, I say about regalis only because of what I saw in photos.

Bluefire, no - that's 100% ESN.  But Airoc, Regalis, Alhelg (the original one, not the recent ones with the chinese sponges - not sure about those), Samba 19/27, ITC Powercell, Karis - yes.  All variations on a theme.

Heard that all these shrink harshly and smell pretty bad when the packages are opened...might be manufacturer-boosted.
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I never wanted to try a blade which is made by soulspin but nevertheless i tried some time ago a blade called andro ligna tour off+ with ST handle fron a buddy. Very bad for me that blade and also for my friend- he put it away because of the bad feeling and bad handling. He bought him a ALC ST blade which he is using. I saw many trying out those blades made by soulspin like andro Ligna and Donic world champion blades. For me I can see it at first sight if it is worth or not trying out a blade. Believe me I have tried many blades till now, may over 500 and more
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Originally posted by ttspirit ttspirit wrote:

I never wanted to try a blade which is made by soulspin but nevertheless i tried some time ago a blade called andro ligna tour off+ with ST handle fron a buddy. Very bad for me that blade and also for my friend- he put it away because of the bad feeling and bad handling. He bought him a ALC ST blade which he is using. I saw many trying out those blades made by soulspin like andro Ligna and Donic world champion blades. For me I can see it at first sight if it is worth or not trying out a blade. Believe me I have tried many blades till now, may over 500 and more

We all bow down before your magical super senses.  But I note that it's a no - you haven't tried these brand new blades.  And I remember your truly crazy rant about SoulSpin because they refused to make you a special handle.  I'm not sure that they are the problem.
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Yes andy, you are right!
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